Patcher says Nintendo doesn't even know there's an internet ye

[Valwin]

Nintendo in no way fail in online they have it and they use it but what i mean is that is not as thick as the xbox live or psn

hopefully we are already starting to see that Nintendo is changing that for the wiiu and 3DS and they seem to be waiting to make new experience from it like they always seem to do witch is good

See? This is the Dark Side of being a Nintendo fan - Nintendo "isn't failing", they're just "not giving as much content as PSN and XBL". THAT MEANS THEY'RE THE WORST OUT OF THE BUNCH. THAT MEANS THEY FAIL. THAT'S A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE.

Yes, let's hope they change that, but at least acknowledge facts.

they would fail is they dint have any online but they do i play my wifi game in my ds, 3ds and wii that's long way from failing
they donth have some of the features that are nice from the others yea that's true but meaby they haven't focus on it seem how the name of the game is to make money and they seem to pretty much outsell the competition with their current online

 

[Foxi4]

they would fail is they dint have any online

No, dummy - that'd mean they forfeit. Give up. Bail.

but they do i play my wifi game in my ds, 3ds and wii thats long way from failing

Really? The fact that "you can" automatically means "not a failure"? lol, no comment.

they donth have some of the features that are nice from the others yea

You mean in-game voice chat, notifications about online statuses and gamertags? Yes, they don't have that.

thats true but meaby they havent focus on it seem how the name of the game is to make oney and they seem to pretty much outsell the competition

Blame the parents. Or nostalgia. Or tooth fairies. Or Santa.

By the way, drugs sell great too - does that mean they're good? No.

 

[Valwin]

No, dummy - that'd mean they forfeit. Give up. Bail.

they forfeit what ?

Really? The fact that "you can" automatically means "not a failure"? lol, no comment.

o poor me i fail because i play MK on nintendo wifi o the humanity damn the fun damn them

You mean in-game voice chat, notifications about online statuses and gamertags? Yes, they don't have that.

something like that i am not blind like you so i can a knowledge that

Blame the parents. Or nostalgia. Or tooth fairies. Or Santa.

no i blame good games and not the usual generic bloom brown generic game

By the way, drugs sell great too - does that mean they're good? No.

what tell me you dint actually compare this to drugs o wow

 

[Foxi4]

Valw... This isn't about multiplayer. Or about the games. We're discussing the online structure and the way it is managed, also the content it provides. It has nothing to do with Mario Kart. Or Mario. Or anything even remotely connected to the plumber.

 

[SparkFenix]

and who really gives a shit where they fail in online stuff they more than make up for it with innovation and unique fun games instead of just slapping the unreal engine into yet another mindless shooter and throwing it on the shelfs for the shooter whores

Please, people? Shut the hell up with the innovation crap. I hear that all the time. I hear "Nintendo doesn't need online, they have innoation.", "Nintendo doesn't need HD, they have innovation.". Alright, WHY THE HELL THEN is everybody drooling when they show that Zelda HD demo? Why the hell is everybody so happy and hopeful for Nintendo Network? You fanboys are so full of s*it - if your company doesn't give you something, you just say "It's okay, they're innovative". Fine, but they need to be COMPETITIVE on the market aswell. So shut up. No innovation c*ap from now on.

Although I agree with the nintendo online being shit, I don't agree whit this point.
Just because I prefer "innovation" automatically means I hate HD? If I can have only one and prefer "innovation", can't I be excited when I'll be able to get both?

 

[emigre]

I'm no fan of Patcher but isn't beyond the realms of possibility he was being flippant?

In other news, the resident fanboys embarrassed themselves again.

 

[kimekaro]

As a very, very,very longtime Nintendo Fanboy, I feel the need to state that I believe that Nintendo does *in-fact* need an online component. The 3DS is pretty much fulfilling this point to the extent that I personally require in my gaming lifestyle.

A good e-shop with games and demos at reasonable prices (they are getting *much* better at this), a friends list, a message wall and the ability to join said friends in games. All present and accounted for on the 3DS along with a few fun extras.

I can only hope that the Wii U manages to pull these off on it's launch day rather than the abysmal wait we had for the 3DS to play catch-up with itself.

 

[Foxi4]

and who really gives a shit where they fail in online stuff they more than make up for it with innovation and unique fun games instead of just slapping the unreal engine into yet another mindless shooter and throwing it on the shelfs for the shooter whores

Please, people? Shut the hell up with the innovation crap. I hear that all the time. I hear "Nintendo doesn't need online, they have innoation.", "Nintendo doesn't need HD, they have innovation.". Alright, WHY THE HELL THEN is everybody drooling when they show that Zelda HD demo? Why the hell is everybody so happy and hopeful for Nintendo Network? You fanboys are so full of s*it - if your company doesn't give you something, you just say "It's okay, they're innovative". Fine, but they need to be COMPETITIVE on the market aswell. So shut up. No innovation c*ap from now on.

Although I agree with the nintendo online being shit, I don't agree whit this point.
Just because I prefer "innovation" automatically means I hate HD? If I can have only one and prefer "innovation", can't I be excited when I'll be able to get both?

That's not my point, that's miles from my point.

What I was saying was that the typical Fanboy Response annoys me like nothing else in the world. You give someone a valid argument and you meet a brick wall. Let me show you.

"The Wii is a wee bit underpowered" ---> "But innovation."
"The DS could use a bit more RAM." ---> "But Mario and Pokemon."
"WFC is miles behind PSN and XBL" ---> "Oh, but Zelda."

Those are not counter-arguments. Those are called changing the subject completely. There's nothing wrong in liking innovation, nothing at all! Thing is, when we talk about hardware, we talk about hardware. When we talk about games, we talk about games. When we talk about controllers, we talk about controllers. Don't mix that stuff or else you break the Maxim of Relevance and your point immediatelly falls down the bottomless pit.

 

[BoxmanWTF]

Patcher's a douche but this is very true.
Personally I think that they're using this whole "child friendly" thing as a way of not spending money on a good online service

 

[Foxi4]

Patcher's a douche but this is very true.
Personally I think that they're using this whole "child friendly" thing as a way of not spending money on a good online service

Very much so. Having good online requires an army of admins, an army of moderators, tons upon tons of server rooms all around the world connected into a seamless network - all this requires money. Continous flow of money to keep it running, not just the money to develop it.

Don't get me wrong - I sincerely hope that Nintendo Network will turn out to be awesome as I really want to get a WiiU by the end of this year. I just don't like the *current* system.

 

[Deleted User]

Pachter, you troll, you

 

[DSGamer64]

Last time I checked, the 3DS had Netflix support, upcoming 3D movie support and it and the Wii have downloadable games for their platforms. I don't really know what is considered offering content, but Patcher is just a royal douche nozzle.

Last time I checked, every other platform has Netflix, has downloadable games (both exclusively digitally distributed and even full retail games), not to mention DLC, music services, video services that aren't Netflix (like you can buy movies for your PS3 and Xbox 360), and a whole slew of online functions that the Wii doesn't have (being able to see if friends are online, universal voice chat, parties, joining a friend's game midsession, etc).

If you think the Wii isn't completely inadequate in terms of online that's not just opinion, that's absolutely raging blind.

I am quite aware that the Wii does not offer the same levels of content as the PS3 or 360, but then again, how many owners honestly have internet services that would allow them to download more then one PSN game per month considering the size of PS3 games? Most people are limited even by Steam, what makes you think direct to drive services are going to be any better moving forward into the next generation? I don't care for buying new games, especially at the same cost as retail for fuck sakes, I buy digitally for convenience and cost savings, when Sony and Microsoft offer daily sales on all their top titles, maybe I will care more about their direct to drive services, until then, they suck a fat one as much as Nintendo does with that portion of online.

Also, has it ever occurred to you that not everyone plays video games to play them online? Why would I want to play games with hackers and cheaters all the time when I can play with my friends locally or over a network game between us without having people who ruin the fun of online games? I don't play the Wii for online, and in retrospect, I don't play any console or even my computer, for online for the most part. I play games to enjoy them by myself or with my friends, not strangers.

 

[Foxi4]

Last time I checked, the 3DS had Netflix support, upcoming 3D movie support and it and the Wii have downloadable games for their platforms. I don't really know what is considered offering content, but Patcher is just a royal douche nozzle.

Last time I checked, every other platform has Netflix, has downloadable games (both exclusively digitally distributed and even full retail games), not to mention DLC, music services, video services that aren't Netflix (like you can buy movies for your PS3 and Xbox 360), and a whole slew of online functions that the Wii doesn't have (being able to see if friends are online, universal voice chat, parties, joining a friend's game midsession, etc).

If you think the Wii isn't completely inadequate in terms of online that's not just opinion, that's absolutely raging blind.

I am quite aware that the Wii does not offer the same levels of content as the PS3 or 360, but then again, how many owners honestly have internet services that would allow them to download more then one PSN game per month considering the size of PS3 games?

Everyone who has Broadband?

Most people are limited even by Steam, what makes you think direct to drive services are going to be any better moving forward into the next generation?

This explains why Steam sales are soaring, getting better and better each year, actually.

I don't care for buying new games, especially at the same cost as retail for fuck sakes, I buy digitally for convenience and cost savings

Which is exactly the reason to complain, as the company you're supporting does not give you that option.

Also, has it ever occurred to you that not everyone plays video games to play them online?

They're not the target for Internet services then and they're probably not even reading this due to lack of interest.

Why would I want to play games with hackers and cheaters all the time when I can play with my friends locally or over a network game between us without having people who ruin the fun of online games?

Hackers and Cheaters should be eliminated in a GOOD Online network - this is why Nintendo's sucks.

I don't play the Wii for online, and in retrospect, I don't play any console or even my computer, for online for the most part.

But you DO play online sometimes, don't you?

I play games to enjoy them by myself or with my friends, not strangers.

Everyone's a stranger until you meet him/her.

Besides, it's been stated before, this isn't only about the games.