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Pandemic Amnesty? No, people will not forgive and forget what was done to them.
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This!
...and this! We all have, as far as we know, one shot on this planet... we should all do what WE think is best for us and ours while we're at it! I took the double vax due to work, more specifically the wife's work, but my God if someone didn't want the vax then that's their decision and I'm completely fine with that! All this 'oooh I hate anti-vaxxers' 'ooh I hate pro-vaxxers' - get a fukkin grip..
as a fun fact, your first sentence is objectively, factually incorrect, i know this because i researched because some kid on here tried to think they were smarter than me. Yes, the goal is to prevent infection and yes, it does do that. Here's an easy one, tetanus, if you get the vaccine, you will NOT get tetanus, its almost impossible, in fact i did a little digging... ALLEGELDLY there may have been 1 or 2 cases where this happened, but it wasn't even conclusive. Fun fact, same holds true for MMR( Mumps measles rubella) We did have a few cases of measles a few years back, but weirdly enough, they were from illegal immigrants ( no i dea how thats possible).
The problem with covid, as with the flu ( ill probably get pulled for saying that) is that it mutates, fine so be it, i understand that , but then, it isnt a vaccine, there was a time pre-censorship where the definition of a vaccine was too...immunize, now, its whatever you wanna label something to get around emergency use rules. If you wanna get an injection, thats on you, and your right, but you demonizing or vilifying someone for not getting something that probably wont help for something that will only really harm a VERY small portion of the population, is wrong, iirc there was a guy around the 1930's who demonized people for not subscribing to his belief system, it was pretty bad too, i hear.
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thanks, i appreciate it.
The left showed their fascistic tendencies during Covid. No, we will never forget. Yes, people will be held accountable for the lies, the lives lost in nursing homes, children's development negatively affected. I will never forget how I was treated when I didn't wear a mask because I wasn't sick.
The left believed every single lie from the government and the media and many still do. The audacity for them to call us anti-vaxxers when we all went to public school, which means, we've received other vaccinations.
The Branch Covidians are a cult. And cults need to be held accountable for brainwashing and gaslighting the world for 3 years now. People lost their jobs. People died alone because family wasn't allowed to be there in their final moments. Deaf people could not communicate. People lost body autonomy. We were harassed, beaten, scolded and the left attempted to excommunicate people out of society. People were banned from social media and even banks shut down people's accounts because of wrongthink. Fascism is the marriage of government and corporations against the people and the left sure did enjoy their little run over the past few years.
That run of fascism will be over in January 2023 when the new Congress and state houses are seated.
The left believed every single lie from the government and the media and many still do. The audacity for them to call us anti-vaxxers when we all went to public school, which means, we've received other vaccinations.
The Branch Covidians are a cult. And cults need to be held accountable for brainwashing and gaslighting the world for 3 years now. People lost their jobs. People died alone because family wasn't allowed to be there in their final moments. Deaf people could not communicate. People lost body autonomy. We were harassed, beaten, scolded and the left attempted to excommunicate people out of society. People were banned from social media and even banks shut down people's accounts because of wrongthink. Fascism is the marriage of government and corporations against the people and the left sure did enjoy their little run over the past few years.
That run of fascism will be over in January 2023 when the new Congress and state houses are seated.
do you have a source on this? all the data im seeing says that vaccinated people are dying in way higher numbers.
I've been wondering for the last two years if there's a hidden virus that makes people ignorant or something because holy shit.
Vaccines are, indeed, preventive care. They fortify your inmune system agaisnt the virus, meaning, you may catch it, but instead of being deadly, you will have very reduced symptoms.
You guys are experts at projection, huh?
There's a limit to how much idiocy you can put in a single post, you know?
EDIT: Of course it had to be a Florida man. Of fucking course.
hey trader pat do you remember this saying? it was something like, my body my.... compliance? something like that.
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so you basically said something right, lied, and then said something right again.
Vaccines are preventative care, accurate, which btw the definition ( since you need to do this as a conservative) is "to keep from happening or existing" which the vaccine does not, in any capacity, do. you were also right in that it does prep your IMMUNE SYSTEM against a virus so you are in fact immune. Now where you lied, because MFP tells you to, is where you said, you will have reduced symptoms no no, thats not how it works, You dont get reduced MMR, you dont get reduced tetanus, you dont reduced polio, you DO get reduced covid though, because it is a treatment to mitigate something, rather than prevent it, much like an anti inflammatory.
edit: because holy shit
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can you elaborate on the florida comment? from what i understand they are doing quite well, leading in education right now iirc
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This statement is the perfect example of the left's true beliefs towards those who dare to actually do their own research and resist the biggest psyop this world has ever known.
You're just mad that we didn't give in as easily as you did. We are not the ones getting myocarditis diagnoses or having increased miscarriages.
it also doesnt even make sense in the simplest sense, omircon and its subs arent nearly as deadly, sounds like that person has a bad case of the anti sciences
Imagine thinking that fascism is when the government leaves you alone.
Reading peer reviewed studies is research. How many did you read over the past couple of years? My guess would be zero.
I've been asking since this whole thing started to show me a peer reviewed study showing that masks stop the spread of Covid. After asking hundreds of times on multiple platforms, nobody has been able to prove that they work. Instead, people share links to corporate media parroting government talking points. I hate to burst your bubble, but Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon are not scientists, young lady.
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yea im gonna need receipts on them claiming unvaccinated are leading in deaths.
...maybe...try to...ignore it then?? Get your Switch related content by ignoring the rest, clicking on the Switch section, then get on with your life - is that so difficult? I see US politics posts in the same area all the time, which I obviously don't give a flying piss about, but you don't see me running into one screaming 'ARGHH ME FUCKIN EYES, GET IT OFF!!' - if it doesn't appeal to you, don't click on it!
It should be a red flag that the news page the ranking is from doesn't mention what the metrics are for the ranking but how would you people realize that?
Meanwhile every other actual study that discloses their metrics places Florida at place 14 or lower.
https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm
Normalized for per-capita the vaccinated are dying less than the unvaccinated, the fact that absolute numbers has more vaccinated dying than unvaccinated is due to the 78% vaccination rate of adults.
And for the uneducated in the thread, per-capita means it's given as a X amount out of a thousand people. Comparing a group of 1000 vaccinated individuals to a group of 1000 unvaccinated individuals the unvaccinatedg group will end up with more dead people than the vaccinated group.
@DillyDilly I'm kinda bored right now, so I can cook up a simple GreaseMonkey/TamperMonkey script to block posts from this section (World News, Current Events & Politics) in the Recent Content for you. Interested?
On topic, let those who want to take the vaxx get theirs, and those of us who don't, not take it.
The prejudice, from both sides, is silly.
I'd assume anyone who took it made an informed decision about being made a guinea pig for a new tech (mRNA).
I'd rather wait and see, especially since I got CoViD-19 (Delta) and almost died prior to vaccines being available, so having "further protection" was meaningless in my case, specially with new variants popping left and right at the time.
Ivermectin definitely works though, there are tons of evidence for it, so to see the "horse dewormers" fake news up to now is really... well, never mind.
On topic, let those who want to take the vaxx get theirs, and those of us who don't, not take it.
The prejudice, from both sides, is silly.
I'd assume anyone who took it made an informed decision about being made a guinea pig for a new tech (mRNA).
I'd rather wait and see, especially since I got CoViD-19 (Delta) and almost died prior to vaccines being available, so having "further protection" was meaningless in my case, specially with new variants popping left and right at the time.
Ivermectin definitely works though, there are tons of evidence for it, so to see the "horse dewormers" fake news up to now is really... well, never mind.
mRNA vaccines have been in development since 1997, and have been successfully used on people for cancer related things since 2008, and in 2013 the first mRNA vaccine against an infectious disease got greenlit, specifically for rabies. So no, they haven't been experimental for quite some time now.
Also if you got a very early strain of covid an updated vaccine against newer strains may be beneficial for you, if you want some extra protection. Though it'd be best if you consult your doctor about that, they will be better suited to advise you.
Not a single study has found evidence that there is a benefit to ivermectin against covid-19, literally none of them. The only evidence ever presented was from doctors who had stakes in companies selling the stuff.
It's also just logical that it won't help against covid much at all because ivermectin works by incapacitating the muscles of parasites in the gut, which allows the immune system to kill them. The active ingredient of the medicine does not leave the gut, and the gut is not the main place the virus infects as it targets respiratory organs mainly.
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What do you define as trustworthy?
I also got asymptomatic Omicron earlier this year as well. I think I'm good.
The doctor actually gave me a recommendation (the one that treated me for delta. Needing oxygen to breathe is not a fun experience...) not to get vaccinated due to very high IgE on my blood or something like that.
Makes sense, but I've found many studies that say it's effective. Gotta research the researchers then.
The interesting thing regarding the COVID-19 fiasco is that citing multiple sources speckled throughout the period between 1970 and 2019 from the NIH's PubMed database supporting the claim that antibody prevalence, in the case of coronaviruses, had, at best, a weak correlation to disease severity constituted as misinformation. I still hold to the fact that SARS-CoV-2 is a naturally occurring virus that was exaggerated and sensationalized. To be honest, we have never tracked any disease as aggressively as we did with COVID-19. Because of this, it is possible that other common cold viruses may have similar mortality if they were traced and tracked as aggressively as this coronavirus. Other such cold viruses include rhinovirus, adenovirus, enterovirus, influenza, and parainfluenza. All of these cold viruses may also cause flu or flu-like illness ranging from mild to lethal severity. Even looking at the symptoms of the common cold, influenza, SARS, MERS, and COVID-19, there's little to no difference. Disease progression also does not differ. Interestingly, there was very little talk of hypercytokinemia (cytokine storm), the primary cause of death for the 1918 Flu, SARS, and MERS; and I suspect COVID-19 due SARS-CoV-2 being related to SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV as it is a SARS-like coronavirus. This would explain the anecdotal evidence supporting the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine treatment. Hydroxychloroquine is used to treat autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Hypercytokinemia is an autoimmune condition that will lead to sepsis. You know, no one talked about that and no one really cares because these facts were not put forth by neither those supporting the claim nor those opposing the claim.
Another contributing factor was the overuse of ventilators. This likely led to poor sanitary maintenance of the machines and equipment, allowing pathogenic bacterial growth such as Streptococcus pneumoniae. Such poor sanitary maintenance would allow opportunistic lung infection leading to an increase in pneumonia occurrences. This pneumonia would need to be treated with antibiotics due to the presence of a bacterial infection. If left untreated, the likelihood of hypercytokinemia increases. Again, I never heard anyone speak of this as a potential contributing factor to the mortality observed during 2020-2021. Again, I assume most do not care regardless of their partisanized opinion on the matter. The last couple years made me painfully aware that people are generally opposed to reality outside of their precious pocket computer screens, those "black mirrors." The majority's preoccupation with the "hyper reality" of the digital metaverse makes them vulnerable to stupefaction.
The problem is that all of these well known facts were forgotten in the hysteria of 2020. I also observed search engine results change over the course of 2020, most aggressively in the latter half of March through the first half of April, to bury certain studies to the point that search queries would not yield them unless you already knew they existed or were already familiar with querying the NIH's PubMed database. Some studies were even removed from public access, prompting me to start archiving them while they were still accessible. To my knowledge, I was among a microminority that was doing this relative to the other, less technical and less reliable, sources being archived. For the third time, I assume this is due to the majority not having much interest in the truth, opting to agree with whatever nonsense is spouted by their preferred political pundits and social commentators. At this time, I'm not sure I will ever vote for any federal offices. My trust in our political leaders was utterly destroyed in 2020.
I still seethe over the Forbes opinion article titled, "You Must Not ‘Do Your Own Research’ When It Comes To Science." This is because science is not some esoteric knowledge reserved for lofty technocratic initiates in which the profane plebeians are incapable of comprehension. The venerated expert does not hold a monopoly on what they consider to be "gnostic" truth. In this respect, I tend to agree with G.K. Chesterton's sentiment in Heretics (1905), in which I agreed with in 2019 and I was strongly affirmed in 2020:
It is a heck of a rude awakening when people promote lies regarding a familiar subject from either partisan "side."
Another contributing factor was the overuse of ventilators. This likely led to poor sanitary maintenance of the machines and equipment, allowing pathogenic bacterial growth such as Streptococcus pneumoniae. Such poor sanitary maintenance would allow opportunistic lung infection leading to an increase in pneumonia occurrences. This pneumonia would need to be treated with antibiotics due to the presence of a bacterial infection. If left untreated, the likelihood of hypercytokinemia increases. Again, I never heard anyone speak of this as a potential contributing factor to the mortality observed during 2020-2021. Again, I assume most do not care regardless of their partisanized opinion on the matter. The last couple years made me painfully aware that people are generally opposed to reality outside of their precious pocket computer screens, those "black mirrors." The majority's preoccupation with the "hyper reality" of the digital metaverse makes them vulnerable to stupefaction.
The problem is that all of these well known facts were forgotten in the hysteria of 2020. I also observed search engine results change over the course of 2020, most aggressively in the latter half of March through the first half of April, to bury certain studies to the point that search queries would not yield them unless you already knew they existed or were already familiar with querying the NIH's PubMed database. Some studies were even removed from public access, prompting me to start archiving them while they were still accessible. To my knowledge, I was among a microminority that was doing this relative to the other, less technical and less reliable, sources being archived. For the third time, I assume this is due to the majority not having much interest in the truth, opting to agree with whatever nonsense is spouted by their preferred political pundits and social commentators. At this time, I'm not sure I will ever vote for any federal offices. My trust in our political leaders was utterly destroyed in 2020.
I still seethe over the Forbes opinion article titled, "You Must Not ‘Do Your Own Research’ When It Comes To Science." This is because science is not some esoteric knowledge reserved for lofty technocratic initiates in which the profane plebeians are incapable of comprehension. The venerated expert does not hold a monopoly on what they consider to be "gnostic" truth. In this respect, I tend to agree with G.K. Chesterton's sentiment in Heretics (1905), in which I agreed with in 2019 and I was strongly affirmed in 2020:
It is a heck of a rude awakening when people promote lies regarding a familiar subject from either partisan "side."
Sorry for the late response, but I also never claimed to be correct - as I said in multiple of my other posts; I haven't touched up on this topic in quite a while. So thank you for the correction. I realize my wording was a bit - garbage, let's be honest. But like I said I'm not claiming to be correct.
Not sure if you're referring to me on this one, but as a safeguard let me state it again. I never claimed to be correct, I never claimed to be smarter. I quite literally said in my other posts that I will fully accept it if I am wrong, and welcome anyone who proves me wrong - because that's called learning, and why would I deny that?
Yes... I know this. However this isn't what I was referring to. I was talking specifically about the Covid vaccines which don't seem to have the same purpose as others - also like I said before : they work differently than other vaccines on a fundamental level. So much so that I disagree with them being called an actual "vaccine". They're mRNA sequenced injections that don't aim to stop infection. To put it simply Covid is a virus with too many variables, and too fast of a strain mutation cycle that we quite literally cannot make a vaccine that provides immunity; only alleviation after the fact of infection. It's just too unpredictable as of right now to have any solid measures against it.
Once again, I know my wording was horrible, but I genuinely was not trying to misinform, or claim superiority on a subject. Yes the purpose for vaccines originally was immunization, but that simply isn't possible for every type of Virus. Going to use the Flu as an example.. yet again. It mutates at such an absurd rate that an effective vaccine is nearly impossible. So the best-case solution we can provide is reinforcement for the infection after the fact, or try to predict which strain will come around infection season, which simply isn't always possible. The same can be said with Covid, except that Covid is even more unpredictable.
And I completely agree with you on this. The way vaccines were mandated, was absolutely ridiculous. I get the fear of having a virus spreading, but to force something upon the mass population which does in fact, not stop infection - is just wrong.
i apoligize if i came off rudely at all. and i agree with you on most points, but the problem is, you mention Mrna injections dont aim to stop infection, but, they are marketed as vaccines, do you know why? to bypass emergency use
fun fact, mandates were also illegal
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