Hacking [OLD!] PS3 "jailbreak" F.A.Q.

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Rydian said:
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Can PAL machines play NTSC dumps? (I would imagine they can?)
I haven't heard, but my guess is currently no. Backup loaders for the Wii (for example) have to make special changes, and we're not to that point with the PS3 yet.

PAL works on NTSC-U consoles and vice versa, I tried PAL Borderlands on my NTSC-U console and it worked.
 

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Rydian said:
KiiWii said:
Can PAL machines play NTSC dumps? (I would imagine they can?)I haven't heard, but my guess is currently no. Backup loaders for the Wii (for example) have to make special changes, and we're not to that point with the PS3 yet.

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Can we delete the update directory/files from the dumps on the HDD to save space?I have heard about doing this and it met with success in at least one case, but I haven't seen many people trying.

QUOTE(KiiWii @ Sep 22 2010, 04:10 PM)
Can PS3break be updated flashed to use peek/poke forked payload? (what apps are there to do this on the PC?)
AFAIK no, none of the premade jailbreaks are updateable at all, and the PSgroove/freedom version is actually the most advanced, which is kinda of ironic.


cheers Rydian, but AFAIK ps3 game disks are universal? I work in a game store, and people constantly bring in UK PS3's and with handfuls of import games that all seem to work, so I would expect the dumps to work too.

What do you think about dummying out the update file (for example replace update.pup with an empty .txt document and renaming to update.pup would work and only take up a few kb?) I dont have access to my ps3 to try right now
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My PS3break has an update button (http://www.ps3break.com/images/truth_home.gif) ... im sure someone on here did a review on one and said it mounted differently on a PC when in update mode....
 

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I have read reports of the new manager not working with games from backup manager 1.0, has anybody noticed differences in compatibility?
 

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Ahhh I see.

I guess I have a few options:

1) Spend another day re-backing up games
2) Hope to shit someone creates a converter
3) Forget about updating the back up manager

Would this new formatting improve the compatibility with the games that didn't work?
 

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Zetta_x said:
Ahhh I see.

I guess I have a few options:

1) Spend another day re-backing up games
2) Hope to shit someone creates a converter
3) Forget about updating the back up manager

Would this new formatting improve the compatibility with the games that didn't work?

I don't know, from what it looked like it the games just needed to be a re-arranged a bit.

Though I could be mistaken and that the format is completely the same.
 

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Sweet! In that case the file manager or FTP should be a quick fix! Thanks for keeping on top of things Delta!
 

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I didn't know the PS3 didn't region-lock (or that the only difference was a region lock and this bypassed it). The first seems unlikely for Sony and I expected that if the second was the case it'd be touted as a feature. Will add to the FAQ.

As for the modified backup loader, I'll make a note on that.
 

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Rydian said:
I didn't know the PS3 didn't region-lock (or that the only difference was a region lock and this bypassed it). The first seems unlikely for Sony and I expected that if the second was the case it'd be touted as a feature. Will add to the FAQ.

As for the modified backup loader, I'll make a note on that.

Again I'm not entirely sure about the format change, I was skimming the article while half asleep :\

Also I think it just wasn't region locked because the PSP wasn't region locked either.
 

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Rydian said:
I didn't know the PS3 didn't region-lock (or that the only difference was a region lock and this bypassed it). The first seems unlikely for Sony and I expected that if the second was the case it'd be touted as a feature. Will add to the FAQ.

As for the modified backup loader, I'll make a note on that.

Blu-ray movies are region locked, but games for some reason are not. I've gotten a few Japanese games that work fine on my US PS3.

The modified backup loader does have some compatibility issues, and also needs the 1.1 version of PSGroove. So you have to ensure your PSGroove port is 1.1 for your device. Also commercially available implementations won't be able to use this as well.
 

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Jasper07 said:
Doesn't NTSC and PAL have something to do with regions?
No, it's a separate concept from region-locking, however it's a geographical separation just like region locking, so the two are usually seen as the same thing by consumers (it's how they've gotten away with region-locking).
 

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Jasper07 said:
Doesn't NTSC and PAL have something to do with regions?

NTSC and PAL are video standards for televisions. Specific regions use either of these standards so they can be somewhat interchanged for addressing specific regions.

Japan and North America use NTSC, while most of the rest of the world uses PAL. Thus 'NTSC' usually refers to a Japanese or US release, while the PAL release generally refers to the European release of a game.

Generally PAL tvs can decode NTSC signals. However almost no NTSC tvs can decode PAL unless you buy one specifically, which is rare. So you can technically play a PAL game on an NTSC box, because the game is not region coded. But unless the PS3 knows to convert the signal to NTSC, or your TV can decode PAL, you're going to playing the game as if you were watching scrambled pay per view porn in the old days
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Unfortuantely I don't know how the PS3 addresses the NTSC/PAL thing. On the Wii the game can be forced into a specific mode via the USB loaders. I'm not sure if the PS3 detects your local region, detects the TV, or just outputs PAL and will make you think you're on LSD. For myself, I have only imported Japanese releases, which are in NTSC so I don't have any experience with running a PAL game on an NTSC PS3.
 
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