[NOOB SUPPORT] How arm9loaderhax + Luma3DS works and what it is.

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by addi33, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. addi33
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    Okay so I have seen -put in any big number that comes to your mind here- of threads were Noobs are writing stuff like:
    ...does this works with arm9loaderhax cfw?...
    ... does this works with Luma cfw...

    So to every Noob. here you have your explanations on what it is and why you are wrong with your questions. If people don´t understand what you mean they can´t answer you. so here we go:

    CFW
    Luma3DS
    armloaderhax (more noob friendly explanation)
    arm9loaderhax

    So for short Neither ARM9LOADERHAX is a CFW it is a persistant (low-level) system exploit, nor Luma3DS is a FW Replacement, it is a Signature Patcher.

    Hope this clears things up to the Noobs.
    Thanks.
    Have a good day Everyone.
     
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  2. Kyubnyan

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    Can't they just read the a9lh guide and stickied posts? I don't see the point in this thread.
     
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    Nice explantiary guide for noobs
     
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    seems that they don´t.
     
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    I'd probably call a9lh a 'persistant (low-level) system exploit' rather than 'homebrew exploit' but that's pulling strings
     
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    If they don't read those what makes you think they will bother to read this? Most don't even ask in the thread made specifically for noob questions.
     
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    addi33 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    I know. but maybe the caps title gets some attention. I would call this what I am trying "Clickbait"
     
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    There is also that in "3DS NOOB PARADISE - ask your questions here" and it is at the top of the page.
     
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    addi33 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    also I think most of the noobs don´t have an account and just register one when they messed up.

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    seems that the noobs don´t pay attention to stickied threads.
     
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    Then why would they pay attention to any thread, they just seem to post without looking at the threads already made.
     
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    I am not gonna discuss any further.
     
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    The user has made a thread to explain the above in essential detail, not everyone will see it but whoever does will have a better insight.
     
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    so, is it possible for Nintendo to issue an update which cleans arm9loader memory before loading firm1, or this is impossible to do without an hardware revision?
    or maybe, could they make firm1 forcing the user to reinstall firm0 until the hash-check is correct?

    I always read people stating that a9lh+luma3ds is completely update-proof, but I can't understand why.
     
  14. Kyubnyan

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    Pretty sure this would end up like the wii boot2 update.
     
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    Luma adds on FIRM Protection. Its like it makes it read only (like an sd card). so never update running gw payloads that will overwrite FIRM
     
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    I know that, but firm1 is not protected (because the updating mechanism works). So theoretically, a future update might make firm1 a sort of recovery mode, forcing the user to redownload the firmware until firm0 has the correct hash. Or maybe they could do an arm9loader update fixing this... I Just want to know if this is possible

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    firm0 is still protected so the only thing nintendo would do with that is "semi brick" their consoles since firm0 can´t be overwritten.
    in "theory" they would have to push an illegal update that replaces the arm9loaderhax.bin with something that removes the payloads out of the FIRM, so that you would basically, reboot into an "uninstaller" and then into unpatched FW without even noticing it.
     
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