Nobody who complains about NFL players taking a knee during the anthem stands up for it at home

[TotalInsanity4]

black on black crime is the root of the cause but people try to brush that aside. black on asian crime is very high too, along with black on whites, black on green, black on rainbow, you name it and its true. people try to brush off the facts because victimization is more popular nowadays.

The root of the cause is police training instructing them to whip out a gun at the first sign of trouble but go off I guess

 

[Glyptofane]

http://www.newsweek.com/outspoken-n...girlfriends-parents-after-they-ordered-758237

That sounds more like a typical white on white crime of passion involving some lone nut who just happens to identify as a Neo Nazi.

 

[Don Jon]

That sounds more like a typical white on white crime of passion involving some lone nut who just happens to identify as a Neo Nazi.

nothing burger just a lone wolf

 

[TotalInsanity4]

That sounds more like a typical white on white crime of passion involving some lone nut who just happens to identify as a Neo Nazi.

If you read anything about the issue he specifically separated her from her friends and killed her family because they found out how anti semetic he was. I'd say it's definitely because he was a Nazi

 

[PuNKeMoN]

how many of you guys are from the ghetto? i grew up in a violent neighborhood in the 90s, most of the violence was from blacks. we werent allowed to play outside alone etc.etc

even in this song Tupac role-plays as a typical gangbanger and 20yrs later nothing really changed except video games are keeping them more busy from criming on people

West side of Chicago wasn't quite the ghetto back then but I did watch my neighbor get shot when I was 8 years old.

Oh and it was a Latino man shooting a white man.

 

[gameboy]

back to the nfl. most of the ghetto players move away once they get paid because they fear for their life and they never go back and then marry white women. the reason they protest is because they dont wanna get shot for driving an expensive car, most of the protests are for self preservation

 

[TotalInsanity4]

back to the nfl. most of the ghetto players move away once they get paid because they fear for their life and they never go back and then marry white women. the reason they protest is because they dont wanna get shot for driving an expensive car, most of the protests are for self preservation

What kind of Fox News BULLSHIT

 

[MaverickWellington]

So now you call me a liar and comparing my position to that of a whiney teenager. A feeble attempt to attack my character at best.

People develop their own opinion based on evidence.
I merely called out hypocrisy and exposed infringement of constitutional rights. Up to the people what they do with that information.

Despite not having "any investment in this debate" you sure are posting a lot.
My opinion of you based on evidence is that I don't need to waste any more time with you.

You didn't call out a hypocrisy, you made a completely absurd connection that wasn't connected at all then called it a hypocrisy on the spot. I am not calling you a "liar," because of your position. I called you one because of the way you express it. You and I have literally the same stance -- that it's harmless and shouldn't have repercussions against it, and to have them violates the right to protest that this country was built upon. My point from the start is that you just express your argument like a whiny teenager. Just because I have a discussion with people doesn't mean I'm not someone who's as invested as you. Perhaps I misspoke by saying I'm not invested in the debate despite having a clear stance, but one thing is undeniable: You and I, despite having the same stance, express our stances differently. Quit stomping your feet and demanding change while lying about the fact you're demanding change and that more people demand change too.

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What

Literally me rn

 

[gameboy]

West side of Chicago wasn't quite the ghetto back then but I did watch my neighbor get shot when I was 8 years old.

Oh and it was a Latino man shooting a white man.

west chicago is all mexican. but the blacks on southside will beat the shit out of you or kill you for not being black

 

[MaverickWellington]

back to the nfl. most of the ghetto players move away once they get paid because they fear for their life and they never go back and then marry white women. the reason they protest is because they dont wanna get shot for driving an expensive car, most of the protests are for self preservation

This sounds like someone who's only interaction with ghettos is watching Don't Be a Menace to South Central. Great movie, but not a great representation of the hood or its life.

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The root of the cause is police training instructing them to whip out a gun at the first sign of trouble but go off I guess

You can't not have police trained to respond in situations like that. The excessive force is fucking awful and shouldn't happen, full stop, but police should have the training and capabilities to respond quickly in situations that justify such force. The problem is not the training, it's where they use it. They respond to situations with ways that do not suit the situation.

 

[Glyptofane]

If you read anything about the issue he specifically separated her from her friends and killed her family because they found out how anti semetic he was. I'd say it's definitely because he was a Nazi

His beliefs are what led up to the crime, but his reaction to their disapproval was atypical for anyone, including so called Nazis. This guy would have killed them no matter what their problem with him was.

 

[gameboy]

This sounds like someone who's only interaction with ghettos is watching Don't Be a Menace to South Central. Great movie, but not a great representation of the hood or its life.

''Don't Be a Menace'' is actually spot on

 

[MaverickWellington]

''Don't Be a Menace'' is actually spot on

You're fucking with me right

 

[gameboy]

You're fucking with me right

its a parody but the messages are spot on. even keenan ivory wayans yells 'MESSAGE' to tell these black folk to wake up

 

[MaverickWellington]

its a parody but the messages are spot on. even keenan ivory wayans yells 'MESSAGE' to tell these black folk to wake up

PLEASE be fucking with me. The reason he says "MESSAGE" at messages present in literally every single fucking film it's parodying (which you haven't seen one of evidently) is to make fun of how shoehorned and in your face they are. Do you watch South Park and expect it to all be unironic, and 100% serious?

 

[PuNKeMoN]

Police act on gut feeling. I cannot believe how many people honestly believe that it is fair to judge what a police officer did when you don't have his background, or training, or experience, or limited knowledge of the situation. After the fact, we can all see that the man did not have a gun, but could the police officer? He misjudged the situation, nothing more, nothing less. By taking a magnifying glass to an issue that the police officer only had a 1x zoom on does not a fair case make.

Am I saying that all police violence is just misjudged situations? Absolutely not. I know that there are police officers who will abuse their power, I have seen it. Does that mean that all police officers abuse their power? Absolutely not. The media chooses to comment on things that will produce an outrage.

Cops shouldn't be shooting to kill. Guilty parties still have a right to due process and a chance to reform.
Even in cases where lethal force is authorized, I would still consider that to be too much power for a person to carry.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Cops shouldn't be shooting to kill. Guilty parties still have a right to due process and a chance to reform.
Even in cases where lethal force is authorized, I would still consider that to be too much power for a person to carry.

And even if they are shooting to incapacitate (which is generally what one would do), they should NOT be waiting 8 minutes to call for medical treatment while standing around and making fun of the person they shot, as has unfortunately seemed to become rather common

 

[MaverickWellington]

Cops shouldn't be shooting to kill. Guilty parties still have a right to due process and a chance to reform.
Even in cases where lethal force is authorized, I would still consider that to be too much power for a person to carry.

In hostage situations, they should shoot to kill. When there is an active shooter, they should shoot to kill. When someone has literally killed someone, the police should shoot to kill. Period. Shooting to kill is a deterrent. If all they're gonna get is life in a prison it's not going to deter people as much as knowing that if they do some dumb shit like this, they will literally die. See Anders Brevik and the prison cell he's in.

 

[Xzi]

There's no reason at all that NFL players shouldn't be able to protest however they see fit. It triggers Trump and some of the more racist team owners, though, so it also wasn't surprising to see those people stomping all over the first amendment by banning that form of protest.

 

[PuNKeMoN]

In hostage situations, they should shoot to kill. When there is an active shooter, they should shoot to kill. When someone has literally killed someone, the police should shoot to kill. Period. Shooting to kill is a deterrent. If all they're gonna get is life in a prison it's not going to deter people as much as knowing that if they do some dumb shit like this, they will literally die. See Anders Brevik and the prison cell he's in.

No.

Death penalty (which I support) is decided by a jury. That's 12 people. Not 1.