Nobody who complains about NFL players taking a knee during the anthem stands up for it at home

[Navonod]

Yeesh, your posts are stunted as fuck. If you have something to say, just say it and get to the point. Racism in power is something that needs to be removed. Full stop. Just not talking about it makes people blissfully ignorant to the harsh reality of the issue. If people can put so much effort into living in blissful ignorance, they can put the same effort into fixing it so they don't have to cover their eyes and ears.

I don't know. Keeping black people in victim hood is stunted as fuck. Which no white person (except for leftist) is doing and if anyone is holding anyone back it's themselves for letting it happen.
Except for maybe a rare case.

 

[Cylent1]

You cannot go to work and do what you please while on the clock, it is a business with employees and not a protest.
Do it on your own time.

 

[Xzi]

I don't know. Keeping black people in victim hood is stunted as fuck. Which no white person is doing and if anyone is holding anyone back it's themselves.
Except for maybe a rare case.

The problem is that people don't realize the majority of oppression is systematic. No individual white person caused the racial issues that we face today, yet there are plenty of white people who will take personal offense whenever the subject arises. That's why we can never take steps toward fixing things.

 

[Greymane]

Yeesh, your posts are stunted as fuck. If you have something to say, just say it and get to the point. Racism in power is something that needs to be removed. Full stop. Just not talking about it makes people blissfully ignorant to the harsh reality of the issue. If people can put so much effort into living in blissful ignorance, they can put the same effort into fixing it so they don't have to cover their eyes and ears.

You mean like "kill de boer" in africa?
Or the killing of non muslims in parts of the middle east?
Maybe the full on distrust of blacks that you can find in parts of asia?.

Or was it only blacks in the usa you cared about?

And on the taking a knee bit, the players have a right to disassociate, but so do the owners of the team.

 

[Navonod]

The problem is that people don't realize the majority of oppression is systematic. No individual white person caused the racial issues that we face today, yet there are plenty of white people who will take personal offense whenever the subject arises. That's why we can never take steps toward fixing things.

I can't believe that any oppression is systematic when you have people of color who are billionaires in America.
Seriously I agree that white people who have white guilt need to stfu.

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You mean like "kill de boer" in africa?
Or the killing of non muslims in parts of the middle east?
Maybe the full on distrust of blacks that you can find in parts of asia?.

Or was it only blacks in the usa you cared about?

And on the taking a knee bit, the players have a right to disassociate, but so do the owners of the team.

I was gonna make this argument to but right now the focus is America.
Or are we including the whole planet on this?

 

[gameboy]

You cannot go to work and do what you please while on the clock, it is a business with employees and not a protest.
Do it on your own time.

your e a racist

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The problem is that people don't realize the majority of oppression is systematic. No individual white person caused the racial issues that we face today, yet there are plenty of white people who will take personal offense whenever the subject arises. That's why we can never take steps toward fixing things.

the problem is that people cant see past the first level to get to the next and so on and so forth. instead the people that see past it are labeled racists

 

[TotalInsanity4]

your e a racist

Why you gotta go for his e like that man

 

[Xzi]

I can't believe that any oppression is systematic when you have people of color who are billionaires in America.

That's not at all relevant. I never claimed there was a law preventing people of color from having a certain amount of money or being born rich. You've purposely ignored any/all evidence I've posted of systemic racism.

 

[Navonod]

That's not at all relevant. I never claimed there was a law preventing people of color from having a certain amount of money or being born rich. You've purposely ignored any/all evidence I've posted of systemic racism.

What evidence? I can't ignore it if it doesn't exist. It may have existed in the 1970s but it's way better now than it was back then.

 

[Greymane]

I was gonna make this argument to but right now the focus is America.
Or are we including the whole planet on this?

We can keep the focus on the usa.
Though it doesnt change to much with the call of certain groups/people to kill cops, whites, outsiders etc.

 

[Cylent1]

your e a racist

Wow! Such rocket surgeons in here that the only things they worry about is getting on people's asses because of spelling, while the rest of the world have more serious concerns to worry about!
And yes I am a Racist . I do hate everyone un-equally. And in my honest evreyone can go ahead and walk of a cliff like Lemmings do.

 

[The Catboy]

Looks like you only saw like two of my comments then said something.
Yes racism wouldn't be a problem if that's all you talk about.
I know Morgan Freeman doesn't speak for all black people but when he was asked "How do we stop racism?".
He said to stop talking about it. But here you guys are. I'm at fault to but this is entertaining and funny. So eh.

Ignoring issues doesn't make them go away nor does it fix the problems that these players are trying to protest. Look at some of the most recent events, you have black people killed by police for literally doing nothing. Yet you have White males committing mass shootings and coming out just fine. That's a pretty glaring an obvious problem that can't simply be ignored, but of course it always overlooked because "black on black violence." You aren't fixing the issues, you are just making them worse by trying to pretend like they aren't there.

You cannot go to work and do what you please while on the clock, it is a business with employees and not a protest.
Do it on your own time.

So they are just expected to protest in quiet? That's not how protests work, they don't do it when it's most convent to others. Not to mention it's a peaceful protest that in no matter effects the way they are doing their job. They are still playing the game when the anthem is done and thus still doing their job. Standing for the Anthem isn't part of their job nor should it ever be part of their job because that would strip away their right to protest.

 

[Xzi]

What evidence? I can't ignore it if it doesn't exist. It may have existed in the 1970s but it's way better now than it was back then.

How about clicking the PDF I posted, which has statistics for 2016? Or do I have to remind you again that the War in Drugs continues, and is not just a relic of the 70s, though it absolutely should be.

I get the feeling your next argument is "Obama was elected president, so racism is over." Unfortunately that argument completely went out the window when we elected Trump, who opened his campaign on the line, "Mexicans are rapists and drug mules." We've come full circle to the next Nixon.

 

[Cylent1]

So they are just expected to protest in quiet? That's not how protests work, they don't do it when it's most convent to others. Not to mention it's a peaceful protest that in no matter effects the way they are doing their job. They are still playing the game when the anthem is done and thus still doing their job. Standing for the Anthem isn't part of their job nor should it ever be part of their job because that would strip away their right to protest.

Who pays their checks? if there were no fans left, there would be no NFL!!!

Go to work then just do what you want when you want on the clock and tell me how it goes...

 

[TotalInsanity4]

What evidence? I can't ignore it if it doesn't exist. It may have existed in the 1970s but it's way better now than it was back then.

Saying "it's better now" doesn't change the fact that it could still be better and that passive oppression still doesn't exist. A great example would be majority-black communities (especially in the south) that """happen""" to be low-income and have awful housing; it comes from generations of black people being born into poverty and not having enough money to leave, as well as not having proper schooling due to schools being funded by property taxes. Like it's no wonder a lot of people in the Hood resort to peddling drugs and joining gangs, to them it's the only way they can put bread on the table and have any sort of security

Obviously things have to change, but measures have to be taken to bring low-income neighborhoods up above poverty standards to even begin that process

 

[gameboy]

seriously though, can someone tell me why ese guys keel for the anthem? and why is it just nfl? shouldn't the nba do it too then?

 

[The Catboy]

Who pays their checks? if there were no fans left, there would be NFL!!!

Go to work then just do what you want when you want on the clock and tell me how it goes...

Forcing patriotism is fascism and it's a violation of their Constitutional right to protest and as I just started, they are still doing their job. Their job is to play football, which is what they do after they've finished their protest. The protest in no matter effects the outcome of the game, it in no matter effects how they preform, and it done outside of their actual job. People are acting like they are doing it in the middle of the game, which they aren't. They have a right to protest and stripping them of that right is unconstitutional.

 

[Cylent1]

seriously though, can someone tell me why ese guys keel for the anthem? and why is it just nfl? shouldn't the nba do it too then?

Nobody should kneel for the anthem if you are a true American!
Blacks kill more blacks every year for decades and you all are worried about is 1 out of about 10,000 cops being racist and killing blacks, but the bottom line is blacks are their own doom!
Do you ever see blacks kneeling to theirselves?

 

[Greymane]

Saying "it's better now" doesn't change the fact that it could still be better and that passive oppression still doesn't exist. A great example would be majority-black communities (especially in the south) that """happen""" to be low-income and have awful housing; it comes from generations of black people being born into poverty and not having enough money to leave, as well as not having proper schooling due to schools being funded by property taxes. Like it's no wonder a lot of people in the Hood resort to peddling drugs and joining gangs, to them it's the only way they can put bread on the table and have any sort of security

Obviously things have to change, but measures have to be taken to bring low-income neighborhoods up above poverty standards to even begin that process

So then what to do?.
Lowering the amount of one parent households(this one should happen natural when conditions improve).
funding schools on all the levels up to university butn ot inlcuding it.
Acteal help for drug addicts, and the teaching of usable job skills to unemployed/low educated.

Note that doing this on a scale of even a state will cost alot of money, and might not show result for years if at all depending on how it is done.

 

[Cylent1]

Forcing patriotism is fascism and it's a violation of their Constitutional right to protest and as I just started, they are still doing their job. Their job is to play football, which is what they do after they've finished their protest. The protest in no matter effects the outcome of the game, it in no matter effects how they preform, and it done outside of their actual job. People are acting like they are doing it in the middle of the game, which they aren't. They have a right to protest and stripping them of that right is unconstitutional.

Only the left would think it would be OK to go to work and get paid to protest on the clock. lol
WOW! I wonder why this shithole of a planet is going to hell, You have people who believes things like this.

In the real world and not your make believe fantasy land where 1 is 2 and 2+2=8, you will find out as youmature and become a part in this society we are all stuck in. So suck it up buttercup youre feelings don't matter.