Nintendo will be launching a new version of the original Switch model, with improved battery life

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  1. Teletron1

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    Have you seen the new schematics on the FCC revision? As far as Switch 1 yeah with NFC and Bluetooth I figured they just didnt provide the Audio driver
     
  2. Waygeek

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    Playground rumours.

    It's also not as simple as a 'software issue'. I think Nintendo are worried about interference, the Joycons already use bluetooth, and some people can't even keep those connected. With a stronger and stabler bluetooth connection it may be doable, but that wouldn't be a software solution at this point. We don't know if there is a newer bluetooth implementation onboard at this point. We won't until teardowns come out.
     
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    Seems battery is now confirmed to have maintained the original 4310mAh capacity as per FCC teardowns.

    https://hothardware.com/news/nintendo-switch-lite-exposed-fcc-teardown
     
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    The discussion was about the revised normal Switch though, not the Switch Lite. I expected the Switch Lite to have the same size battery as the original, because, all other things being the same, the slightly smaller screen would account for the slight increase in battery life. For the revised normal Switch, we should find out soon I guess.
     
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    ...you're not very good at actually reading any of the pages I link.

    From the article:

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    True, I just read the title :P
    Now I wonder if the Switch Lite also has a newer SoC, since the battery is smaller.
     
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    Of course. Mariko.
     
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    The post didn't mention it, which means maybe not. Makes sense if they have chips of the older type they need to use up.
     
  9. PityOnU

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    No, the Lite is confirmed using Mariko.

    In fact, one of the (many) reasons for Mariko to exist is specifically because there AREN'T enough Logan chips... nVidia did not expect the Switch to be so popular/prolific and is now stuck maintaining an entire 20nm fab just for producing that one chip. Changing to the smaller lithography on Mariko will allow them to close down their now antiquated 20nm fab.
     
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    But what is Mariko exactly? Do we even know? Is it confirmed to be the same thing as this?
     
  11. PityOnU

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    It is confirmed to be functionally identical to Logan. The exact size of the lithography has yet to be confirmed (no one has actually imaged the die yet), but DVFS tables from nVidia driver/firmware source code strongly resemble those from known 16nm chips.

    This is entirely speculation on my part, but I would expect some minor architectural adjustments to have been made from Logan to Mariko specifically targeting mobile use and minimizing power consumption. The original Logan chip really only targeted stationary use in things like the Shield TV.
     
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    You straight up think they wouldn't put Mariko in the lite despite that being the primary use case for it, then go on to ask what Mariko even is? Maybe do some studying fella before making any more assertive posts...

    It's effectively a leaner version of the same chip family. It uses a slightly improved fabrication process, nothing to write home about. At best it will mean dynamic resolutions hold closer to their intended target. And apparently, combined with the new more power efficient RAM, is surprisingly more power efficient, if the Switch Switch's battery is the exact same mAh but offers almost double life...
     
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    I don't think I said any such thing.
    I made it pretty clear that I don't know. That's why I asked. No need to be a prick about it.
     
  14. Waygeek

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    Listen man how about you do the unexpected thing for a poster on the internet here, and absorb what I said, admit to yourself you were wrong and skiddadle.

    You literally did say such a thing. You said they 'maybe' haven't used mariko here. Even though the lite is literally the use case for the chips' existence. All the while not even knowing what mariko is somehow. It's there in black and white.
     
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