Nintendo takes down Yuzu-based emulators including Suyu, Sudachi, Torzu, Uzuy and Nuzu

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The never-ending battle between the litigious plumber and the emulation Hydra continues day by day, and these past days, Nintendo took action against more emulators forked or based on the original Yuzu emulator, which was taken down by Nintendo they sued the company behind the emulator and settled for 2.4 million back in February of this year.

Continuing with their actions, Nintendo has gone after more Yuzu-based emulators that have appeared in recent months, with some being those growing in popularity like Sudachi and Suyu, and others not being as popular but still being caught in the crossfire, like Nuzu, Uzuy and Torzu. While all of their respective repositories are currently offline, some appear to have been entirely deleted, and others do have the DMCA page appear on them while accessing the repository, which could mean that, upon receiving the DMCA notice, some of the developers for those repositories opted to entirely delete the repos themselves, and the others haven't either taken action or weren't able to.

Sudachi is one interesting case in this regard, as the developers behind it have claimed that a counter-action would be taken against the DMCA notice, and additionally, it was also mentioned that they intend on rewriting the code base for the emulator in order to work around the DMCA sensitive parts.



It is still unknown if Sudachi has indeed submitted a counter-claim against the DMCA notice yet, and what might come out of it.
In the meanwhile, Sudachi's website is still operational, as well as a repository mirror as an Onion link.

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Nintendo ain't win nothing the source code is out there and like millions of people have it lol.... I mean all them android ports like ziyunx and others... There could be people who are smart as the yuzu team enjoying fixed and working games in private... I'm pretty sure of this...
 
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And as you can see, you still have people treating this as yet another Nintendo DMCA that pushes them to piracy and not "oh wow, the predictable result from forking from the code equivalent of toxic waste predictably happened"
How is it equivalent to toxic waste? Because Nintendo said so? Why did they say so again? Oh yeah because it utilized decryption. Well duh, because the games need to be decrypted in order to run! It's been that way for every console emulator since like the early to mid 90s. That's why a lot of those CD Based consoles required a BIOS dump. Why then haven't all those emulators been taken down, especially the Nintendo ones? They are "bypassing protections" aren't they? Ryujinx also needs to decrypt the games to play them, doesn't it? Hmm interesting.

"It's actually because it's Nintendo's current console! Everyone should know emulating a current console is really bad and dumb!!" Again: Ryujinx. Again: Every emulator from the 90s onward. I remember playing Mario & Luigi on VBA when it was a brand new game. Hell, I remember playing a partially machine translated version of Pokemon Silver before it was even localized for the West on a Gameboy emulator. Not to mention Dolphin being concurrent with the GameCube AND the Wii! To make it even more egregious, it had high compatibility with commercial games to boot, unlike some of the earlier examples.

"No, no, it was actually because it was able to play TotK before the official release date!!!" Actually, no it wasn't. Ryujinx was the only one that worked for that game at first. There were custom builds pretty quickly, but those weren't official. In fact, the Yuzu team's official stance was not supporting games before release. There are rumors of private builds and ROM sharing, but IF those are true, then they are separate and unrelated DMCA cases and should have had no bearing on the takedown of the mainline emulator.
 
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exactly the reason yuzu was taken down was because it could play totk early. in nintendos eyes they disrespected them so they had to pay and since they couldn't go after the leakers of the game they set their targets on yuzu instead. that was the reason they had to be taken down. just like what happened with kongnutz when he leaked nsmb. it has zero reason to do with them sharing roms or the emu itself.
 
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ryujinx is slower and more demanding especially on steam deck, and it drops more frames. Its a less efficient and more power hungry emulator and that matters for me because i dont have a top of the line rtx 5090 build
The answer being the "OH-SO-GREATEST!" C# used as coding language for it.

exactly the reason yuzu was taken down was because it could play totk early. in nintendos eyes they disrespected them so they had to pay and since they couldn't go after the leakers of the game they set their targets on yuzu instead. that was the reason they had to be taken down. just like what happened with kongnutz when he leaked nsmb. it has zero reason to do with them sharing roms or the emu itself.
Actually there was a big nuke about Tears of Tormented Kimishima (TM), Wailtendo went after people downloading the game over... various methods and sent letters about it, not sure if DMCA or whatever, basically whoever downloaded Tears of Tormented Kimishima (TM) - not that it's a good game or anything - was about to have the wallet murdered.
 
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exactly the reason yuzu was taken down was because it could play totk early. in nintendos eyes they disrespected them so they had to pay and since they couldn't go after the leakers of the game they set their targets on yuzu instead. that was the reason they had to be taken down. just like what happened with kongnutz when he leaked nsmb. it has zero reason to do with them sharing roms or the emu itself.
No it couldn't. I tried it myself when the game first leaked. Ryujinx was the only one that could at that time.
 

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No it couldn't. I tried it myself when the game first leaked. Ryujinx was the only one that could at that time.
who do you think stole whos code? yuzu did it all the time ryu was always first and shortly after yuzu just happened to update and they could run it too this was with every switch game released after ryu hit the scene. they were notorious thieves always copying off ryu and cashing in and getting away with it. serves them right they got stomped karma always wins in the end
 
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who do you think stole whos code? yuzu did it all the time ryu was always first and shortly after yuzu just happened to update and they could run it too this was with every switch game released after ryu hit the scene. they were notorious thieves always copying off ryu and cashing in and getting away with it. serves them right they got stomped karma always wins in the end
So it was a open source license violation. Still no reason for Nintendo to take it down. Also, I went back and looked through old comments from a website that I won't name, and confirmed that the leak only worked on Ryujinx for an entire day before Yuzu had a user-made patch uploaded to this very website (quickly deleted of course). Nintendo lied to the court. Simple as that.

EDIT: I removed the screenshots in case it causes issues with the other site.
 

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who do you think stole whos code? yuzu did it all the time ryu was always first and shortly after yuzu just happened to update and they could run it too this was with every switch game released after ryu hit the scene. they were notorious thieves always copying off ryu and cashing in and getting away with it. serves them right they got stomped karma always wins in the end
A reminder that Ryujinx is on MIT license (FLOSS compatible) while Yuzu is on GPL v2 license (also FLOSS compatible), so please don't use words like "stole" in a situation where it didn't happen in two ways at that.
 

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who do you think stole whos code? yuzu did it all the time ryu was always first and shortly after yuzu just happened to update and they could run it too this was with every switch game released after ryu hit the scene. they were notorious thieves always copying off ryu and cashing in and getting away with it. serves them right they got stomped karma always wins in the end
So why hasn't Nintendo hit Ryu as well if they did the same thing, but first?
 

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So why hasn't Nintendo hit Ryu as well if they did the same thing, but first?
The Ryujinx devs are located in Brazil and from my understanding Brazil doesn't adhere to the WIPO Copyright law so any lawsuits brought against them by Nintendo wouldn't be admissible.
 

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How is it equivalent to toxic waste? Because Nintendo said so? Why did they say so again? Oh yeah because it utilized decryption. Well duh, because the games need to be decrypted in order to run! It's been that way for every console emulator since like the early to mid 90s. That's why a lot of those CD Based consoles required a BIOS dump. Why then haven't all those emulators been taken down, especially the Nintendo ones? They are "bypassing protections" aren't they? Ryujinx also needs to decrypt the games to play them, doesn't it? Hmm interesting.

"It's actually because it's Nintendo's current console! Everyone should know emulating a current console is really bad and dumb!!" Again: Ryujinx. Again: Every emulator from the 90s onward. I remember playing Mario & Luigi on VBA when it was a brand new game. Hell, I remember playing a partially machine translated version of Pokemon Silver before it was even localized for the West on a Gameboy emulator. Not to mention Dolphin being concurrent with the GameCube AND the Wii! To make it even more egregious, it had high compatibility with commercial games to boot, unlike some of the earlier examples.

"No, no, it was actually because it was able to play TotK before the official release date!!!" Actually, no it wasn't. Ryujinx was the only one that worked for that game at first. There were custom builds pretty quickly, but those weren't official. In fact, the Yuzu team's official stance was not supporting games before release. There are rumors of private builds and ROM sharing, but IF those are true, then they are separate and unrelated DMCA cases and should have had no bearing on the takedown of the mainline emulator.
Yup i was in middle school at the time playing play vba on a 700mhz packard bell it was hilarious... My mother seen me doing so took my original hardware and games back to Babbages Software ECT which we now know as GameStop today LOL!!! She was happy to get all that money back when they actually gave you good money back then LOL nostalgia... Right in the current lifecycle of the Gameboy Advance mmm them dual core cpu with integrated graphics and damn those agp cards were the stuff back then....
 
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The Ryujinx devs are located in Brazil and from my understanding Brazil doesn't adhere to the WIPO Copyright law so any lawsuits brought against them by Nintendo wouldn't be admissible.
genius! who woulda thought being in a DMCA-unfriendly country would save their asses? if only other devs were that smart
 

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genius! who woulda thought being in a DMCA-unfriendly country would save their asses? if only other devs were that smart
Not just that, but piracy runs rampant in Brazil and Nintendo knows that the local gov't doesn't enforce anti-piracy laws so they won't even bother marketing any of their Switch releases down there.
 

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ryujinx is slower and more demanding especially on steam deck, and it drops more frames. Its a less efficient and more power hungry emulator and that matters for me because i dont have a top of the line rtx 5090 build
of course it is demanding when it is more accurate emulator, it even sometimes run new titles without needing mods or updates
 

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Not just that, but piracy runs rampant in Brazil and Nintendo knows that the local gov't doesn't enforce anti-piracy laws so they won't even bother marketing any of their Switch releases down there.
They actually do for quite some time, the thing is that it isn't competitive enough compared to Sony or Microsoft, not necessarily because of piracy but because of how Nintendo price their releases compared to other publishers that actually adjusts their price accordingly to the country they are publishing their stuff.
 

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How is it equivalent to toxic waste? Because Nintendo said so? Why did they say so again? Oh yeah because it utilized decryption. Well duh, because the games need to be decrypted in order to run! It's been that way for every console emulator since like the early to mid 90s. That's why a lot of those CD Based consoles required a BIOS dump. Why then haven't all those emulators been taken down, especially the Nintendo ones? They are "bypassing protections" aren't they? Ryujinx also needs to decrypt the games to play them, doesn't it? Hmm interesting.
It's actually because as a former Suyu dev has said, the Yuzu dev team used the Switch SDK to help code the emulator.
 

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