1. godreborn

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    Does Atmosphere need a chip? Think about that.
     
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    RIGHT! These people are ungreatful brats who probably didn't pay for their devices anyways and still bitching about stolen code!
     
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    Need NO, best method to launch it Hell Yeah! They both need an entry point.
     
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  4. shulkmad

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    Yes, Sciresm stated many times Atmosphere will need TX's modchip for Mariko. Think about that.
     
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  5. godreborn

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    Sounds like you're just making excuses.
     
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    A neat idea in my opinion would be to have all smash renders added to the icon selection. Highly doubt it though due to obvious copyright reasons.
     
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  7. Lilith Valentine

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    Well, it's been over 24 hours.
     
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    They have to wait for atoms to update so they have code to steal
     
  9. DrewV1234

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    Why are people fighting and arguing about who pirates, or downloads free games with atmosphere? If they do then let them, it's their choice not the others, and if you don't support piracy then just say your opinion and don't keep on.
     
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    Is it stable yet?
     
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    Well, atmos users are still waiting for CFW in Mariko and lite units... and if not for TX, they probably would have had to wait much more longer than they currently are, remember that atmos had 0 progress.
     
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  12. bundat

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    So after talking to several SX OS users who have accidentally updated on the TX discord, I've figured out the source of the confusion.
    • SX OS users who are using RCM-exploit on unpatched systems have no problems.
      • You can boot 10.2 emunand, since that runs from RCM. No FW update will block it.
        • If you have problems, you probably have a gamecart inserted
      • You can boot OFW without using the dongle/SX bootloader menu. Since OFW is clean and untouched supposedly
    Everything works as expected.

    The huge misunderstanding comes from:
    • SX Core/modchip users on Mariko/Lite CANNOT update AT ALL.
      • Supposedly, NEITHER OFW nor CFW boots, both black screen. Can't even get to the boot menu
        • according to a several users
      • A mod is saying though that while you cannot boot CFW (even a 10.2 emunand), you CAN still "genuine boot", but it is not advised as it is supposedly now detectable by 11.0 telemetry
    • Even restoring a 10.2 NAND backup supposedly does NOT WORK (this is quite surprising imo)
      • This actually seems dangerous, if you genuine boot and burn fuses, you might be left with an unusable brick on 10.2 with fuses allowing only 11.0. And neither the modchip nor genuine boot can boot then.
    • Everyone agrees removing the modchip will allow you to boot OFW with no issues, but that's too much trouble for now
    This makes me think the modchip is not running an exploit as low-level as RCM, and is running at a level that is affectable/detectable by FW.

    TL;DR: 11.0 blocks the SX modchip.
    Makes sense this is Ninty's next step.

    I don't see them taking action against RCM units since those aren't in production anymore anyway (and it's not like they can do anything else about it, the patched units was already their answer to that).
     
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  13. TomSwitch

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    True that game that is starting development soon have no reason not to use the latest sdk. But when will these game get released is the question that matters.

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    RCM is likely to be the best exploit you are ever going to get. It's hard to guess what you are waiting for.
     
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    That's my best guess too. Even 2nd-party franchises such as Pokémon and Fire Emblem make no appearance as user icons, as Nintendo doesn't fully own those two franchises. I wish they could appear, but oh well. This is one out of many more cases where licensing and copyrights can get in the way.
     
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    That is a wrong assumption on both SX and Atmosphere user in totality. There might just be some percentage point more pirates on the SX side but there are fine people on both sides. :)
    There is one argument that supports having more people on atmosphere side not being pirates, SX is not open source, so there is less possibility to make and use home brew stuff on it.
     
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    My brother's switch updated soon as it went live, however contrary to what everyone else is posting his switch CAN boot into Emunand but won't boot into OFW or Boot menu at all. This is on a Mariko Switch using SX Core.
     
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    What version is your emunand at?
     
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    Feels so good to have an unpatched Switch.
     
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    Ver. 10.2.0
     
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    Im really curious to see what will happen or even if anything will happen.
    To be honest, i liked SXOS i chipped my switch with a trinket M0 and i really hope there will be any future updates. :(
     
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