Nintendo Sues Companies Over Selling DS Cards

[em2241992]

Key statement include but not limited to. That means anyone that has a card that looks similar to a DS game card. Sucks but thats legality.

 

[Hakoda]

It's not efficient for them to go after everyone who bought a flashcart, and would be downright stupid. They only sue the enablers - people who sell or otherwise disseminate the products.

True. And since this is America the economy sucks, it would cost Nintendo more to go after every single person using a flashcard than to go after those who host sites that offer the games in the first place.

 

[Psyfira]

Actually, the purpose of flashcarts is to play backed up files of your already owned games and homebrew. From what I can tell, no flashcart developers openly support pirating games.

Last time I checked owning a game doesn't give you the right to make a copy of it, so this isn't legal either. It may depend what country you're in though.

The sad fact is if Nintendo supported homebrew developers in the first place, the carts capable of running pirate titles wouldn't be as advanced as they are. That's not an excuse, just something it would really be worth them thinking about before launching the next console if they don't want to get into this mess again.

 

[stinkoman]

Game Copier

This term was used to present them as having no other uses, say homebrew/dslinux.

This whole thing's a witch hunt, it's really the same thing as taking flash drives, cds, or dvds off the market just because you can store pirated content on it.
What's worth pirating on the DS, anyway?

 

[purechaos996]

Oh crap i've ordered from NXPgame.com and WiiLoveDS.com which as of now are offline. Well time to hide under a rock until this blows over.

 

[Splych]

damn AceKard is in there.
i have an EDGE @ home, lets hope it is still good.

this is pretty wow... to Nintendo.
why waste your time,
i still buy your games.
even your old games too.

 

[RupeeClock]

Nintendo can't possibly win this so long as they continue to try deceiving people about the R4 and other flashcarts, using outdated terminology.

Game copiers is such a 90's phrase, seriously.

They also come off as INCREDIBLY pretentious throughout the lawsuit.

"...devices that are designed to circumvent the technological protection measures built into the enormously popular Nintendo DS and DSi handheld video game system"
"Nintendo is a famous brand and Nintendo video game systems (such as the Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, Nintendo DSi, Game Boy, and Wii) are wellknown and loved among consumers in the United States and abroad. In addition, several of the games offered by Nintendo involve its famous Nintendo characters, including the Mario and Luigi characters that appear in Nintendo's SUPER MARIO BROS. games. In fact, Nintendo's Mario character has been referred to as one of the most famous video game characters in history."
"Nintendo has received many awards for its pioneering contributions to the video game industry and is an acknowledged leader in the field."
"...Nintendo video game systems and games are enjoyed by tens of millions of
consumers..."
"Nintendo and its affiliates presently market and distribute the Wii video game system, as well as numerous Wii video games and a wide range of Wii products, ranging from bags and backpacks to clothing to chewing gum."
"Among Nintendo's video game systems is the enormously popular Nintendo DS, a proprietary dual-screen handheld portable video game system"

Jesus Christ it's like reading a kid's report on why he thinks he's hot shit.
At least say "Critically successful" rather than "Enormously popular".

Ah...well I get they want, and need to protect their intellectual property and copyrights, absolutely. It also sounds like the specific retailers they are targeting were directly linking to ROM downloads.

 

[TM2-Megatron]

Yeah, true, lol. It's clear that NoA is behind that... I can't see NoJ going all "we're hot shit" like that, lol.

 

[Rydian]

Actually, when protecting IP, you DO have to show that you're "hot shit" and "the big deal" and "I was here first".

 

[geoflcl]

I have to commend Nintendo for not giving up, at least.
I can see why they wanna get rid of all those dastardly flash cards. The point is that even thought they COULD be used legitimately, most of them, well, aren't.
So, unless they start makin' homebrew-only cards, Ninty will always be on their asses with their lawsuits.

Whether or not their lawsuits will end up working or not is another thing, though.

 

[monkat]

Side note about all of this:

In an article on Joystiq, a writer used math, whatever that is, to estimate that only less than 1% of profits are actually lost due to piracy.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

Side note about all of this:

In an article on Joystiq, a writer used math, whatever that is, to estimate that only less than 1% of profits are actually lost due to piracy.

Statistics never lie!

 

[Rydian]

Side note about all of this:

In an article on Joystiq, a writer used math, whatever that is, to estimate that only less than 1% of profits are actually lost due to piracy.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/20...s-are-bogus.ars

 

[Porygon-X]

LOLz. They should've listed all of the R4 clones. I see no "R4 3DiLL" (I think that's right).

Also: No Acekard 2i, 2.1. No Supercard DSTwo.

Man. They should at least do SOME research before submitting a formal document.

 

[Rayder]

Nintendo have to show developers that they are doing "something" against DS piracy to keep the developers happy so they'll keep making games for their systems.

 

[MarioBrotha]

Nintendo have to show developers that they are doing "something" against DS piracy to keep the developers happy so they'll keep making games for their systems.

Yea doing this kind of stuff lures in the game makers.
Of course, the only other popular gaming system is the PSP, I don't think the game makers had much choice

 

[VashTS]

last guy got it right, they have to show some fight. otherwise devs will lose their enthusiasm to make games.

i think this lawsuit is unconstitutional and reminds me of the movie minority report. if you really REALLY wanted to, you can line by line write the code for any game ever produced. and build the hardware piece by piece to play it on.

if you then claim i am doing something illegal for what i can do, you have broken the law. flashcarts are not illegal, how can they be? they are hardware created by someone. what that hardware does may be illegal, but you cannot guess that someone will use it for that intent.

i hope they countersue. i would

 

[BlackDave]

M3 DS real was on the list but not the M3i zero

Sooooo

 

[Raika]

The complaint letter...

tl;dr

All I know is that Nintendo's going all out to stop piracy AGAIN.

 

[Salax]

Anyways if Nintendo was my company I would do this every day.
ppl always are trying to justify piracy, saying that they make enough money anyways, ridiculous imo
Nintendo is a company and they have every right to pursue people stealing from them

Flashcarts have legitimate uses, too. If there were no more flashcarts for the DS, I'd have a lot less reason to buy one. And I buy every single DS game I play, but I mostly play them from a flashcart. Homebrew is also a big draw, and the ability to back up my savefiles, etc.

I second this. I buy every game on my flash cart, and I use one because it's MUCH more convenient to use one card that 22.