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[el_gonz87]

He literally said that the Mexican government was intentionally sending the worst of their population to the US, which insinuates to his supporters that the Mexican immigrants we have here are rapists and drug lords. And yes, Hispanic is a race, which is what the majority population of Mexico is

Hispanic is a race? Wrong it's a fucking ethnicity. However false that statement may be, he's not generalizing on a population as a whole based on race, he's generalizing based on how they enter the country.

 

[SomecallmeBerto]

it literally STILL IS RACIST because it is not true, not for mexicans in their entirety and not for mexican immigrants specifically.

It's NOT a race issue. It's an immigration issue. Unfortunately Mexico is a shithole which is why a lot of them come over here illegally.

 

[RevPokemon]

he's not generalizing on a population as a whole based on race, he's generalizing based on how they enter the country.

Which is still a crappy way to generalize people...

 

[Imacaredformy2ds]

Mexico is a shithole

Couldn't be more true my dude

 

[el_gonz87]

Which is still a crappy way to generalize people...

I can agree to that, call the statement stupid. Just don't call it racist.

 

[Clydefrosch]

racism
noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the varioushuman racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement,usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has theright to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior tothe others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such adoctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

None of his statements were generalizing on race, they were describing his perception of the problem with illegal immigration (a subset of people from a specific country, not a race). These were not statements about Mexicans in general, and the whole quote alluded to the fact there was good people in Mexico, but they are not the ones crossing the border.

This is another example of the PC BS going on all over the globe.

fuck isn't he lucky there's no equivalent for racism for illegal migrants, huh?
thinly veiled racism is still racism. applying mexican stereotypes to mexican illegal immigrants remains racist. especially when these are known to be false.

but i guess hitler would've been able to fool you as long as he was only raging on against jews working with money, jewlery and within managerial positions. which he was, very early on. on the other hand, even jewish bankers were fooled enoough to actually support hitlers rising nazi party financially. they didn't believe he would go though on his rethoric either.

 

[SomecallmeBerto]

fuck isn't he lucky there's no equivalent for racism for illegal migrants, huh?
thinly veiled racism is still racism. applying mexican stereotypes to mexican illegal immigrants remains racist. especially when these are known to be false.

but i guess hitler would've been able to fool you as long as he was only raging on against jews working with money, jewlery and within managerial positions. which he was, very early on. on the other hand, even jewish bankers were fooled enoough to actually support hitlers rising nazi party financially. they didn't believe he would go though on his rethoric either.

yes yes yes Trump is Hitler what else is new.

Anyways no...he also made is very clear that it's not ALL of them.

What he said - "hen Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

 

[el_gonz87]

The problem with illegal immigration is: 1 illegal immigrant killing an American citizen, is 1 to many.

Until we can prevent this, illegal immigration is a problem that needs to stop.

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fuck isn't he lucky there's no equivalent for racism for illegal migrants, huh?
thinly veiled racism is still racism. applying mexican stereotypes to mexican illegal immigrants remains racist. especially when these are known to be false.

but i guess hitler would've been able to fool you as long as he was only raging on against jews working with money, jewlery and within managerial positions. which he was, very early on. on the other hand, even jewish bankers were fooled enoough to actually support hitlers rising nazi party financially. they didn't believe he would go though on his rethoric either.

This is America, not Germany. We aren't stupid enough to allow facism, congrats on that. We have laws that protect our citizens and NOT illegal immigrants. I'm not racist, I'm a nationalist.

 

[RevPokemon]

The problem with illegal immigration is: 1 illegal immigrant killing an American citizen, is 1 to many.

Until we can prevent this, illegal immigration is a problem that needs to stop.

Individuals have a prima facie right to immigrate (that is, a right not to be prevented from immigrating) as individuals have a prima facie right to be free from harmful coercion and immigration restrictions are harmful and coercive. In many respects this correlates with the rights to own fire arms...

 

[SomecallmeBerto]

The problem with illegal immigration is: 1 illegal immigrant killing an American citizen, is 1 to many.

Until we can prevent this, illegal immigration is a problem that needs to stop.

I think the main problem is as trump said "hey're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime." We need good people to come over here.

On that note we have to ask the question why are they running over here? Well Mexico is a shithole with a corrupt as all hell government. That needs to change. People need to revolt and take back their country. They won't do that if we keep giving them a way out.

 

[el_gonz87]

Individuals have a prima facie right to immigrate (that is, a right not to be prevented from immigrating) as individuals have a prima facie right to be free from harmful coercion and immigration restrictions are harmful and coercive. In many respects this correlates with the rights to own fire arms...

Legally, yes. One does not have the right to break the law in America.

 

[Clydefrosch]

yes yes yes Trump is Hitler what else is new.

Anyways no...he also made is very clear that it's not ALL of them.

What he said - "hen Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

oh, but i didn't SAY trump was hitler.
but hitler wore his disdain for jews as thinly veiled as trump is wearing his for mexicans and chinese.

 

[the_randomizer]

Individuals have a prima facie right to immigrate (that is, a right not to be prevented from immigrating) as individuals have a prima facie right to be free from harmful coercion and immigration restrictions are harmful and coercive. In many respects this correlates with the rights to own fire arms...

Illegal is still illegal, immigrating illegally into the US doesn't make it any more right, it's still breaking the law. Illegal isn't a race, either, people need to drop that BS.

 

[el_gonz87]

oh, but i didn't SAY trump was hitler.
but hitler wore his disdain for jews as thinly veiled as trump is wearing his for mexicans and chinese.

Lol again. This is America, we don't believe in facism. That's why we bailed out Europe in WW2. Somebody had to deal with the Germans dirty layndry.

 

[RevPokemon]

Illegal is still illegal, immigrating illegally into the US doesn't make it any more right, it's still breaking the law. Illegal isn't a race, either, people need to drop that BS.

In legal perspectives correct but I was speaking philosophically.

 

[el_gonz87]

In legal perspectives correct but I was speaking philosophically.

Lol philosophy doesn't work in practice, that's why we have laws. This isn't Vietnam there are rules here.

 

[Chelsea_Fantasy]

Trump for Führer

 

[Clydefrosch]

I think the main problem is as trump said "hey're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime." We need good people to come over here.

On that note we have to ask the question why are they running over here? Well Mexico is a shithole with a corrupt as all hell government. That needs to change. People need to revolt and take back their country. They won't do that if we keep giving them a way out.

the main problem is that they don't bring those problems with us. they literally help an entire economy of american owned business to exist, they do the work you don't want to do and even though they're illegal, they somehow manage to pay their damn taxes more thoroughly than the average american.

mexico isn't a shithole, but even working below minimum wage in america offers better opportunity to make a live in mexico than staying in mexico.

changing governments or even having every drug, addict and lord disappear overnight is not going to change that fact.
crossing borders to get to better jobs and more money is among the most natural thing for literally any people living near any border. people cross statelines for better wages, they go from germany to austria in the morning and back in the evening for better working hours etc etc.

as you might have noticed in your own country, just paying people better is not an option. its bad for the economy after all. lowering them, now thats a way to go. as long as that remains a truth, and until american wages fall below mexican wages, there will always be people who'll try their luck crossing a border. even if, other than wages, they'b be living in literal christian heaven, they'd cross over to texas so they can build a slightly bigger house or support one more old family member over in heavenstreet 44

 

[RevPokemon]

Lol philosophy doesn't work in practice, that's why we have laws.

Moral philosophy regardless is a key part that is considered within any legal system so it is semi relevant...

This isn't Vietnam there are rules here.

WUT?

 

[Aurora Wright]

The problem with murder is: 1 person killing a person, is 1 to many.

Fixed. It's not like immigrants are genetically more prone to murder.