New protection on DS carts

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  1. corbs132

    corbs132 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    bob is talking about a new firmware preloaded on new dses.
    will this turn into the cat and mouse game of sony v. hackers?
     
  2. zatelli

    zatelli GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    Great news ! Am I the only one to think the weakest link's the dumping process? Being able to dump roms only if certain conditions are met (GBAmp, M3) is an aberration.

    This move coming from a 1st party such as Nintendo is no surprise to me, it was due to happen sooner or later due to the increase in piracy levels aswell as a noticeable drop in software sales: Ninty had to make a move about it sooner or later, same goes for the Wii's DB2 chipsets: too much piracy hurts business.

    I'm not that worried about the outcome because I've got faith in the talented guys the scene's crawling with, this additional protection preventing dumping should go down sooner or later [​IMG]

    if you want a game that bad & you're sure you'll be enjoying it for countless hours, go purchase the real thing. Good games deserve to be supported!

     
  3. KINGOFNOOBS

    KINGOFNOOBS GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    I hardly think its software sales, the game is just most likely big, therefore they have to make a new chip for it. I mean JPN gets sometimes all top 10 games DS, its NOT software sales.
     
  4. Hadrian

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    I wondered why we haven't seen that game, was looking out for it since it was released.
     
  5. kirra

    kirra GBAtemp Regular

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    Like all things before this, it can be undone.
     
  6. Filb

    Filb GBAtemp Regular

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    [​IMG]

    ...The same thing happens to me when I try to backup my own copies of Pocket Monsters Diamond and Pocket Monsters Pearl (also 1 GBit)...
    I doubt it's any "new protection".
     
  7. Timo710

    Timo710 GBAtemp Fan

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    But those games did got dumped right?
    Are we right now scared of a problem that was solved a long time age?
     
  8. BoneMonkey

    BoneMonkey The cheese stash is a lie.

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    only one thing left to do

    panic and scream like little girls !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. lookout

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    A new DS chip borad... ummm

    Flash Carts are easy be dumped ~ just need time..
     
  10. BoneMonkey

    BoneMonkey The cheese stash is a lie.

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    WRG also dumped pokemon pearl and diamond
     
  11. pasc

    pasc GBATemps official GBA Freak

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    The only Question is: How does that Chip prevent reading the cardridge other than with the DS ? He can't think, so the DS must have some special reading method....
     
  12. juggernaut911

    juggernaut911 GBAtemp Slut!

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    NO!!!!!!!!

    Tacos = good
    This gay chip or wutever is causing the problem = HORRIBLE!!!!



    got it covered!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  13. Timo710

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    Lasanga > Taco's
     
  14. TrolleyDave

    TrolleyDave Philosolosophising

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    This happened during the days of the SNES. You couldn't play the carts that used the SuperFX and the encryption/expansion chips that Capcom used. It's definitely not a reason for not getting a flash cart!
     
  15. TrolleyDave

    TrolleyDave Philosolosophising

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    What if it's some kind of dedicated processor like the SuperFX/DSP/Capcom chip of the old SNES games? Or it could be a different boot-loader like they started using in N64 chips after the CD64/V64 was released. If it's the case of the first then there's no chance of a working dump, but then if it's only a few carts then just go out and buy them! If there's no sales there's no future development! If it's a case of the second then a firmware upgrade could probably solve it if a working dump can be made.
     
  16. Relys

    Relys Master of Computer Science

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    Guys stop panicing! If it can be read by the ds. It can be dumped by the ds! It just sounds like some simple code is changed! Their should be an firmware/dumper update soon.
     
  17. Hadrian

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    And when its right...wet our knickers like erm yeah.

    *moves away*
     
  18. 111111111

    111111111 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    cool. took nintendo long enough.

    All first party games will start using different bootcode/cic's now I hope.

    There is barely any ds scene, it's nothing more than one or two groups dumping games. anything that motivates people is good imo - cracks will lead to intro's and trainers and a proper scene will grow out of it.. >:)
     
  19. 111111111

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    It's a reason to wait a few weeks to see if any current cards have problems when it's dumped (and cracked if nessecary). especially if you aren't in a rush for a flashcard.
     
  20. mikeosoft

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    no worries, if it can be played by a ds, then it can be dumped....
     
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