New Liberal Sin - Sit Next To Someone They Don't Like

[billapong]

This thread isnt even trying to discuss politics, its just trying to start a forum fight for the sake of it.

No, I was hoping that people might realize how petty and childish it is to attack someone in your own group for simply sitting next to someone that has opposing views. This isn't the third grade. The hatred is really getting out of control. Possibly, if they realize how hateful they are and are so against hate like they claim they could stand back and see how they are destroying themselves from the inside out? Maybe then they'd stop trying to destroy me?

Personally, I'd love to sit next to any of our previous presidents. I'd be respectful and polite and answer any questions he may ask honestly. So if they asked me if I liked them or not I'd be honest. that's all one can really do. Be honest, which is a trait that Liberals sorely lack.

As for others points of views. Can anyone explain why it's a bad thing to sit next to someone? Should Ellen have had the entire deck cleared so she wouldn't have accidentally sat next to someone that had opposing views? Heck, to go further, why would it be a bad thing to converse with someone with opposing views? Aren't Liberals supposed to be the group of tolerance and acceptance? If so, what justifies turning against one of your own?

 

[morvoran]

As for others points of views. Can anyone explain why it's a bad thing to sit next to someone? Should Ellen have had the entire deck cleared so she wouldn't have accidentally sat next to someone that had opposing views? Heck, to go further, why would it be a bad thing to converse with someone with opposing views? Aren't Liberals supposed to be the group of tolerance and acceptance? If so, what justifies turning against one of your own?

Liberals look for any reason to argue with somebody. Soon, they will find it unacceptable to claim to be a liberal as it's not "left enough". I'm sure one day, they will accept cannibalism as a norm as they are already "eating their own". They are very "tolerant and acceptable" but only to those that go with their viewpoints 100% (unless you're a straight white male, then you're just evil). If you go along with only 99.9%, then you're a nazi scum no matter what race, gender, etc you are.
I'm thinking that maybe it would be best to start ignoring all liberals here and just wait for them to get each other banned to make this section pleasant and have more intelligent conversations.

 

[Deleted User]

This thread isnt even trying to discuss politics, its just trying to start a forum fight for the sake of it.



you all need to talk to real people outside of the internet. Most day to day republicans are decent people, most liberals are decent people. The loons in the media and the losers on youtube picking at "ESSS JAYY DUBAYOOOS" need to get a life.

Nobody in real life talks like Ben Shapiro, and most people here in LA will not talk down to you like Bill Maher (this is coming from a liberal, myself)



here is a challenge for you. Try to say something nice about the left. Anything. No backhanded troll comment either. Lets see if you are discussing in good faith at all here.

Looks like they are not even going to bother...
Here's something I support that would be considered Republican. Personally, in my opinion, legalizing or supporting marijuana is a mistake. Now it's not a blind hate, Tl;Dr due to parts of my childhood. If you smoke it, I get uncomfortable slightly (if it's for a medical reason. Then I'll be less uncomfortable. but still uncomfortable). But I'll tolerate it if your not being an ass. (which the people in my childhood to say the minimum. Were not kind, and fairly violent). Would I prefer if this hypothetical person didn't smoke it? (if it wasn't for a medical reason and used within reason). yes I would prefer they did not, but I'm not going to force them either to stop.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

Looks like they are not even going to bother...
Here's something I support that would be considered republican. Personally, in my opinion, legalizing or supporting marijuana is a mistake. Now it's not a blind hate, Tl;Dr due to parts of my childhood. If you smoke it, I get uncomfortable slightly (if it's for a medical reason. Then I'll be less uncomfortable. but still uncomfortable). But I'll tolerate it if your not being an ass. (which the people in my childhood to say the minimum. Were not kind, and fairly violent). Would I prefer if this hypothetical person didn't smoke it (if it wasn't for a medical reason) yes.

A well thought out argument without generalizing. I may disagree with it, but your post is rather expressing an idea rather than writing off an entire group of people or attacking them. to me, this is what honest discourse looks like. I wont go off topic with this any further but i think this is the type of posts that this section so desperately needs.

 

[morvoran]

here is a challenge for you. Try to say something nice about the left. Anything. No backhanded troll comment either. Lets see if you are discussing in good faith at all here.

I missed this reply from you earlier.
Ok, I'll bite. Give me one good thing to say about the left. Something that doesn't involve taking away rights from lawful citizens, blatantly or with underlying racism, or just outright hateful to a certain majority.

I don't see why you think I should say anything nice about the left when the leftists and liberals on this site can't say anything good about the left themselves. All I ever see is people bashing others with right leaning views, bashing the POTUS, and/or not adding to the topic. Even on my blog where I was looking for good things to say about the left, only one person gave examples that could be used as data. The rest were just attacks against me or what I said.

The left is so involved with hating the POTUS and the conservatives, that I don't think they have anything nice to say about themselves as all they do is hate and destroy nowadays. That's why somebody like Ellen can't even sit next to GWB without being attacked by her own people on the left. They just cannot be tolerant of anybody or anything that does not conform to their values 100%. This is why I don't say anything nice about the left. I won't even get into the hypocrisy they show while protesting the things they stand for such as no pollution, tolerance, no hate, etc.

 

[Deleted User]

I missed this reply from you earlier.
Ok, I'll bite. Give me one good thing to say about the left. Something that doesn't involve taking away rights from lawful citizens, blatantly or with underlying racism, or just outright hateful to a certain majority.

I don't see why you think I should say anything nice about the left when the leftists and liberals on this site can't say anything good about the left themselves. All I ever see is people bashing others with right leaning views, bashing the POTUS, and/or not adding to the topic. Even on my blog where I was looking for good things to say about the left, only one person gave examples that could be used as data. The rest were just attacks against me or what I said.

The left is so involved with hating the POTUS and the conservatives, that I don't think they have anything nice to say about themselves as all they do is hate and destroy nowadays. That's why somebody like Ellen can't even sit next to GWB without being attacked by her own people on the left. They just cannot be tolerant of anybody or anything that does not conform to their values 100%. This is why I don't say anything nice about the left. I won't even get into the hypocrisy they show while protesting the things they stand for such as no pollution, tolerance, no hate, etc.

See here's you're problem. I've bolded it. This is a swing in a argument if I had to represent it in the idea of a fight (even though arguments should not be seen as to be won, and rather to be considered) this swing, causes everyone to disregard you. And what you just did is pretty much "Okay, I'll pretend that I'm going to do said thing. But actually I'm going to do the exact opposite"
Here's your issues.
No inquisition, or thinking deeper. Case example, that time when you linked the white house.gov as your source for the page of what trump has done right. You didn't bother ask yourself if Trump himself controlled that page. Which he easily can, and as someone seen negative by many, you would want to try as much as possible to say something good about yourself. Realize that I'm not attacking you. This is criticism, and patterns I've noticed.
Not listening to the others arugment, and or 'giving'.
When I say give, I mean if we thought a argument as a tug of war. (again, should not be seen as something to win, because arguments don't work that way) giving is letting "your side" of the rope slack a little. Giving credit, or maybe some genuine thought to the opposition.
Which leads to me to my last point.
Stop having sides.
People live across a spectrum, there is no defined side, sides generalize things too much overall. Which in this case again you have. Which is in bold.
If you started doing that, and actual listening. People would then also give you slack as well. Letting their ends of their rope ease up. And listen to you. But you have to stop trying to completely convey what you think as fact. and you have to stop coming out swinging.

 

[notimp]

Liberals infighting and attacking their own is nothing that new, but this raises things to an entirely new level. Liberal Twitter Activists (ROFL, sorry, those words/that label just brings about laughter) attacked the Lesbian Liberal talk show host for sitting next to ex-President George W Bush.

We had that before. If you cherrypick dumb peoples (those that dont matter) tweets on any subject, you win.

Yes thats idiotic. Now what?

Why make the forum all about something a dumb person that doesnt matter at all said?

Because thats one way to make your side look smart? I mean...

Some idiot conservative said, that we should shoot illegal migrants in the foot, so they can run less fast. Do you see us opening threads about that?

And hey, that guy wasnt just a random twitter 'personality'.

Also link the account, I want to know how many followers they have. Just out of interest.

 

[Taleweaver]

Hey... I came into this thread thinking it was about that nut job that piped up at an AOC speech and shouted that we should eat our babies for climate change.

Of course the right wing newspapers reported on the issue in their offhand way ('okay, she wasn't really an AOC supporter, but she didn't respond right away, so we're sure she considered the idea' ').

Haven't heard of the indent in the OP... I guess that's just a regional incident. I guess both sides try to use this tactic to undermine the ideas of the other.
BTW... I haven't seen the video. Did the person sitting next to Bush try to drag him into a similar mess?
(I can't see the point in it. W is a war criminal,but it's not like placing him next to a conspiracy theory is going to do anything)

 

[Quantumcat]

Flamebait thread rather than genuine discussion