New FBI ‘vault’ discusses Utah UFOs, other secrets

Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by TLSS_N, Apr 9, 2011.

  1. TLSS_N

    TLSS_N Who is John Galt?

    Aug 16, 2010
    United States
    Back in the south~
    On April 4, 1949, FBI agents in Utah sent a cable marked “urgent” to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. It said an Army guard at the Ogden Supply Depot, a Logan policeman and a Utah Highway Patrol officer in Mantua each saw from miles apart a UFO — which they said exploded over Utah.

    Under the title “Flying Discs,” the cable said they “saw a silver colored object high up approaching the mountains at Sardine Canyon” that “appeared to explode in a rash of fire. Several residents at Trenton … [reported] seeing what appeared to be two aerial explosions followed by falling object.”

    That and other documents show the FBI was investigating whether UFOs were real, and it figured they could be. Such documents are now available in “The Vault,”, a revamped FBI website for documents that have been released through the Freedom of Information Act and have been recently or often requested.

    Besides talking about Utah UFOs, other Utah-related documents on the website look at such things as FBI snooping into whether the Salt Lake City NAACP had been infiltrated by communists; a death threat in Utah against Lady Bird Johnson; and Hoover lambasting W. Cleon Skousen — a Utahn who has become an icon of the tea party movement.

    “The new website significantly increases the number of available FBI files, enhances the speed at which the files can be accessed, and contains a robust search capability,” David Hardy, chief of the FBI’s Record/Information Dissemination Section, said in a statement.

    One document shows that the Logan UFO incident occurred two weeks after the FBI told bureaus that a “reliable and confidential source” reported that “flying discs are believed to be man-made missiles rather than natural phenomenon. It has also been determined that for approximately the past four years the USSR [Soviet Union] has been engaged in experimentation on an unknown type of flying disc.”

    Documents show that an earlier UFO sighting had been investigated in Logan in September 1947. It said numerous witnesses told the FBI they saw “flying discs” in formation that were “circling the city at a high rate of speed.”

    Most interestingly, on March 22, 1950, Guy Hottel, the agent in charge of the Washington Field Office, sent a memo reporting that an Air Force source said that flying saucers had crashed near Ros­well, N.M., and had been recovered.

    “They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots,” it said.

    Documents on the new website also show such things as a letter that Hoover wrote to a nun in 1962 criticizing Skousen, a former FBI agent who then was writing books and giving speeches on communism and conservative principles that later would make him vocally admired by many tea party leaders today, including TV and radio personality Glenn Beck.

    “Former Special Agents of the FBI are not necessarily experts on communism. Some of them have sought to capitalize on their former employment with this Bureau for the purpose of establishing themselves as such authorities,” Hoover said in replying to questions from Sister Mary Shaun about Skousen.

    “I am firmly convinced there are too many self-styled experts on communism, without valid credentials and without any access whatsoever to classified, factual data, who are engaging in rumor mongering and hurling false and wholly unsubstantiated allegations against people whose views differ from their own. This makes more difficult the task of the professional investigator,” Hoover wrote.

    Other documents show the FBI in the 1950s was looking at whether the Salt Lake NAACP was infiltrated by communists, and was keeping track of its leaders and their backgrounds.

    A memo said the Communist Party wanted the NAACP “to win leadership among negro organizations,” and “various attempts have been made by the CP [Communist Party] to infiltrate and dominate certain NAACP branches through the country.”

    Another document shows that a threat against Lady Bird Johnson, the former first lady, was sent to the FBI’s Salt Lake City office in 1988 in an anonymous letter saying she “must die.” Agents found it was likely sent by a New Mexico woman who was mentally ill, and no charges were filed against her. [/p]


    crazy stuff, crazy... I'll be back on soon I hope, but I can't guarantee anything, we had to rely on a backup,backup plan and it just sucks! It's looking like Utah is my new home! what a co-incidence, huh?
  2. shakirmoledina

    shakirmoledina Legend

    Oct 23, 2004
    Dar es Salaam
    we gotta see if they will hurt us or not. According to me, we cannot be touched, i am pretty certain of that
  3. Snorlax


    Apr 26, 2008
    Well that makes me feel sooooo much better.
  4. Eckin

    Eckin GBAtemp Regular

    Mar 14, 2009
    Cool things like that never happen around here, I was going to say I was jelly, but then I saw those dates and lost some interest
  5. SPH73

    SPH73 Banned

    Sep 2, 2008
    United States
    There are no UFOs.

    Ever since the UFO craze began roughly 50+ years ago literally millions of people around the globe have been hunting for evidence of Extra Terrestrial Space Craft.

    With all those cameras, all those people, and all that time since the begining of this craze there hasn't been a single good picture of an alien space craft nor are there any decent videos.

  6. Forstride

    Forstride The rudder moves when I turn the wheel

    May 6, 2008
    United States
    Pittsburgh, PA
    It never said if it was extraterrestrial or not. It said they might have been from the Soviet Union, man-made missiles, etc.

    Also, you expect someone to get a high-quality image/video of something happening unexpectedly, in the middle of nowhere, most likely at night? Hah.

    I believe there is extraterrestrial life, and while most UFO "reports" are fake and BS'd, I do believe that some people in the world have been "visited" by aliens. Only time will tell if they exist or not.
  7. twiztidsinz

    twiztidsinz Taiju Yamada Fan

    Dec 23, 2008
    United States
    If they weren't so damaging to our country, Tea Baggers would be funny.
  8. Hop2089

    Hop2089 Cute>Hot

    Jan 31, 2008
    United States
    Hopefully the aliens will be friendly like Lala Deviluke from To Love Ru and nothing like the Zentradi in the orginal Macross.

    The communist infiltration of the NAACP seems a bit fishy though.
  9. Veho

    Veho The man who cried "Ni".

    Former Staff
    Apr 4, 2006
    What does "UFO" stand for?
  10. Hop2089

    Hop2089 Cute>Hot

    Jan 31, 2008
    United States
    Unidentified flying object

    Oh yeah some of the UFOs have been proven to be a mostly unknown Nazi aircraft that was bell shaped.
  11. KuRensan

    KuRensan aka Pearbook

    Apr 27, 2009
    Somewhere in the sky
    I still think UFOs are humans from the Future recording history ^^
  12. Hop2089

    Hop2089 Cute>Hot

    Jan 31, 2008
    United States
    That's a legitimate theory that some scientists are discussing about when it comes to UFOs and Aliens.
  13. injected11

    injected11 Crescent Fresh™

    Jul 17, 2009
    United States
    The Nazis got the design from a crashed UFO. (foilhat)