Ok, very sorry that Im an idiot . I have 2 wii's. One with 3.2u, and one with 4.0u.. both with cIOS38Rev13a and I have neogammaR4 lastest version on my sd cards. I read somewhere that you can just make neogamma a channel and just load from that without going into the HBC then selecting neogamma and launching etc, saving a little bit of time....? Any info would be fantastic. thanks!