Edit: did not paste this first paragraph in. My 9 & 12 year old boys are getting a Wii U for Christmas. They have a Wii with 4 motes/nunchucks and 4 add-on motion + plus the gel skins. They are mostly interested in the standard Mario and Lego titles and maybe some Zelda. Does MK8 make use of the motion +? If so guess I would need the new combined remotes to fit the steering wheels, correct? We have been using an old 1996 36" SDTV but I suspect I will need to get a HDTV for them to really enjoy the new system. Will be in basement and used 90% for the WiiU with no cable and possibly some streamed content like YouTube or occasional movies. From my research input lag is an important issue just not sure how important since they are not into shooting games (yet, and Mom isn't thrilled with the idea) but I am sure they will want SSBB. I really want to go as cheap as possible without making gameplay unenjoyable. They play together frequently and sometimes have friends over so upto 4 can be playing so I was thinking in the 40-50" range. The couch is about 10' from the wall but they frequently move closer and play on the floor. Thoughts on balancing quality, size and value? For a budget TV it seems the Vizio E series seems to have a decent balance and input lag data on many of the other current budget sets like Insignia and Spectre is lacking. I am hoping to stay in the 300-400 range for the TV and catch a decent sale over the next few weeks. I am color blind so choosing a set at the store is rather useless. Would like to have some cash to upgrade my video card for Terraria and any other PC games they want.