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Yes indeed, the Japanese language is a bitch to learn. I'd discourage anyone from trying, it's just that difficult.
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Yes indeed, the Japanese language is a bitch to learn. I'd discourage anyone from trying, it's just that difficult.
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Yeah, seeing that this is a game for Japanese people to learn their own language, you are probably right...
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(It's not really that difficult, though...)
 

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Yes indeed, the Japanese language is a bitch to learn. I'd discourage anyone from trying, it's just that difficult.
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Yeah, seeing that this is a game for Japanese people to learn their own language, you are probably right...
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(It's not really that difficult, though...)

Three alphabets and all those symbols? Sounds difficult to me.
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Having done the whole "learning Japanese" thing, I can tell you that Japanese is actually simpler than English!.... at least... the grammar is.
The hardest part is the reading/writing.

Katakana and Hiragana are easy. Kanjis are.....well...special. The first 100 you learn are a bitch, since you can't base yourself on anything else you know.

Once you've learned a couple, you can actually DEDUCE a bunch of them.

For example, in those first 100, you should have "Fire", and "Child".

You encounter a new Kanji! *cue battle theme*. The new Kanji is Fire right next to Child....What would be a fire's child??? A spark. Hence, the kanji means Spark!

It's really that cool.

Fun to learn. Hard, but fun.

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On second thought, I discourage the very scary otaku kids to just grow up and find themselves a REAL reason to learn Japanese. There aren't any giant robots in Tokyo, y'know.
 

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Having done the whole "learning Japanese" thing, I can tell you that Japanese is actually simpler than English!.... at least... the grammar is.
The hardest part is the reading/writing.

Katakana and Hiragana are easy. Kanjis are.....well...special. The first 100 you learn are a bitch, since you can't base yourself on anything else you know.

Once you've learned a couple, you can actually DEDUCE a bunch of them.

For example, in those first 100, you should have "Fire", and "Child".

You encounter a new Kanji! *cue battle theme*. The new Kanji is Fire right next to Child....What would be a fire's child??? A spark. Hence, the kanji means Spark!

It's really that cool.

Fun to learn. Hard, but fun.

[EDIT]

On second thought, I discourage the very scary otaku kids to just grow up and find themselves a REAL reason to learn Japanese. There aren't any giant robots in Tokyo, y'know.

How long did it take you? I'm curious, because I have alot of free time on my hands, and the ability to watch anime without subs would suit me just fine.
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Yes indeed, the Japanese language is a bitch to learn. I'd discourage anyone from trying, it's just that difficult.
lecture.gif


Yeah, seeing that this is a game for Japanese people to learn their own language, you are probably right...
biggrin.gif


(It's not really that difficult, though...)



Three alphabets and all those symbols? Sounds difficult to me.
unsure.gif

Having done the whole "learning Japanese" thing, I can tell you that Japanese is actually simpler than English!.... at least... the grammar is.
The hardest part is the reading/writing.

Katakana and Hiragana are easy. Kanjis are.....well...special. The first 100 you learn are a bitch, since you can't base yourself on anything else you know.

Once you've learned a couple, you can actually DEDUCE a bunch of them.

For example, in those first 100, you should have "Fire", and "Child".

You encounter a new Kanji! *cue battle theme*. The new Kanji is Fire right next to Child....What would be a fire's child??? A spark. Hence, the kanji means Spark!

It's really that cool.

Fun to learn. Hard, but fun.

[EDIT]

On second thought, I discourage the very scary otaku kids to just grow up and find themselves a REAL reason to learn Japanese. There aren't any giant robots in Tokyo, y'know.

How long did it take you? I'm curious, because I have alot of free time on my hands, and the ability to watch anime without subs would suit me just fine.
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How's 7 years for ya?

I actually started learning Japanese on a whim. I grew up a gamer, and was pissed I couldn't play some games. So I just started like that, then fell in love with the language and the culture (the REAL culture of Japan).

Honestly, a single month of learning Hiragana/Katakana can get you navigating through most Japanese game menus.

I can't really say it took me seven years, since I'm still not done learning it. I know about 500 kanji, while most adult natives know around 2000. (Chinese people a lot more...around 6000, or so I've been told).

Honestly, I say seven years, but I was pretty young seven years ago, and so I had learned only very basic stuff. It wasn't seven intensive years, more like the last 3-4 were.

I can watch anime without subs (although I rarely watch anime, most don't catch my eye), I play Japanese games most of the time (currently playing .Hack//GU Saitan, and FFXII
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), and navigate the Japanese web (which isn't that big). Of course, I don't read perfectly, but I understand around 80% of what I read.

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If you really wanna give it a try, I'll help you out.
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3 - 4 years sounds like a large commitment. So let me ask you this: how long did it take you to understand the vocal part of the language? Not counting the reading or writing. Just the speaking and hearing.
 

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3 - 4 years sounds like a large commitment. So let me ask you this: how long did it take you to understand the vocal part of the language? Not counting the reading or writing. Just the speaking and hearing.

Not very long. I see you're an anime fan...you probably caught a few phrases already. Vocabulary is easily obtainable. It all depends on how well you want to understand... A month or so could get you understanding basic verbs and nouns.
 

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3 - 4 years sounds like a large commitment. So let me ask you this: how long did it take you to understand the vocal part of the language? Not counting the reading or writing. Just the speaking and hearing.


Not very long. I see you're an anime fan...you probably caught a few phrases already. Vocabulary is easily obtainable. It all depends on how well you want to understand... A month or so could get you understanding basic verbs and nouns.

Hm, a month for the basics. That sounds acceptable. Although I'm curious as to how someone would go about learning something that way. It's not like a have any books on tape on the subject.
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3 - 4 years sounds like a large commitment. So let me ask you this: how long did it take you to understand the vocal part of the language? Not counting the reading or writing. Just the speaking and hearing.


Not very long. I see you're an anime fan...you probably caught a few phrases already. Vocabulary is easily obtainable. It all depends on how well you want to understand... A month or so could get you understanding basic verbs and nouns.

Hm, a month for the basics. That sounds acceptable. Although I'm curious as to how someone would go about learning something that way. It's not like a have an books on tape on the subject.
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Tapes might not be a must, but books are always useful. I have a couple, and I -highly- recommend a JapaneseEnglish dictionnary.
The "Interweb" is a source of much knowledge
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Hm. I'm intrigued. But I have this sneaking suspicion it will be more difficult than I hoped.
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It would be nice not to have to wait for subtitled series though...

It is a challenge which ensnared me in spending high school with my nose constantly in my dictionnary, and reading charts. =)
Like I said, it's up to you, and if you want, I can give you some pointers.
 
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