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I'm simply curious why didn't they make the new DSi capable of better GFX (like a PSP)? I mean let's say they made a mistake when they released the normal NDS and then saw PSP has better graphics. So why don't they now make it like that? It's just simply stupid. They are losing money.

P.S Im a DS fan so i'm not ranting about it. Just if DSi gfx capability would be a little better than DS and DSlite, i would be happier.
 

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Guess Nintendo did not want to dissapoint the NDS(L) users by making a system way more powerfull that runs far better games not compatible with the NDS(L).

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Fabis94 said:
I'm simply curious why didn't they make the new DSi capable of better GFX (like a PSP)? I mean let's say they made a mistake when they released the normal NDS and then saw PSP has better graphics. So why don't they now make it like that? It's just simply stupid. They are losing money.

P.S Im a DS fan so i'm not ranting about it. Just if DSi gfx capability would be a little better than DS and DSlite, i would be happier.
Because then DSi games wouldn't work on a DS, durr. The DSi is an upgrade to the DS Lite the same way the DS Lite was an upgrade to the DS Fat, its not the next generation, its not the DS2. And how did they make a mistake when the PSP had better graphics? They're not losing money on anything. Do a bit a research before you make a silly post like that.
 

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Because Nintendo has mastered the art of making underpowered hardware sell like crazy.

The next handheld from nintendo will probably have graphics nearing the Gamecube.

But when sony makes a new handheld, it will have graphics that are better than the PS2 (I don't think near PS3.)
 

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Most DSi owners already owned a DS or DSL so there is no difference and the DSi should have been made with better graphics capability to lure in new gamers to Nintendo.
 

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Fabis94 said:
I'm simply curious why didn't they make the new DSi capable of better GFX (like a PSP)?

Why should they? If you want good PSP graphics, get a PSP. Nintendo puts innovation, gameplay or however you want it to call it first, then graphics. Besides, it's cheaper to develop for the DS than for the PSP, making it more accessible for third-party devs.

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I mean let's say they made a mistake when they released the normal NDS and then saw PSP has better graphics. So why don't they now make it like that? It's just simply stupid. They are losing money.

LOL. Oh my... Do you consider it a mistake? And you're saying they lose money? Nintendo is losing money with the DS?

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P.S Im a DS fan so i'm not ranting about it. Just if DSi gfx capability would be a little better than DS and DSlite, i would be happier.

Well, it doesn't look like you're not ranting...
 

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Welcome to GBAtemp !

I understand where you are coming from but again like everybody is saying it would not be fair for older ds phat and ds lite owners if the newer DSi had better graphic capabilities. Now then this theory would be completely thrown away if they start releasing DSi only games because then i believe they could have had a better GFX system because older owners would have to buy the new DSi for the exclusives.

Edit: Also for the people flaming him the DS is losing some money on the fact that some stupid gamers buy systems only for graphics yes i know the DS is murdering the PSP but there are still many people who either say the DS is too "kiddy" for them or the graphics suck so in a certain way they are losing some consumers.
 

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Why would they want to spend money on developing better more powerful hardware, when they could just re-package the same old thing, remove useful functions (GBA), put some cheap useless functions in it, and watch it sell like mad?

Nintendo love to sell people the same thing ten times over and watch them lap it up.
 

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Hop2089 said:
DSi should have been made with better graphics capability to lure in new gamers to Nintendo.

Protip: Not everybody has the money for a new handheld right now, and making the DSi more powerful so any new games made for it wouldn't work on the regular DS/DSl would probably piss off a lot of people.

Not to mention it's nothing but a goddamn gimmick.
 

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apb407 said:
Edit: Also for the people flaming him the DS is losing some money on the fact that some stupid gamers buy systems only for graphics yes i know the DS is murdering the PSP but there are still many people who either say the DS is too "kiddy" for them or the graphics suck so in a certain way they are losing some consumers.

Revise your definition of "flaming", please -- it's completely wrong. The DS is not only "murdering" the PSP, it has sold more than 84 million units around the world. How on Earth would you consider that "losing money"? The success of the DS is based, mostly, on its casual-gaming nature. Instead of focusing in graphics and all that, Nintendo opted for a "everyone-can-play" handheld. So far, so good. And that doesn't mean at all that it's kiddy... if someone thinks so, then that someone should educate himself before speaking. The ratio for customers lost:customers gained with that move is like 1:90000, even if you don't want to admit it. Nintendo is not losing money at all.
 

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I tend to agree they could have put a GFX chip that could render DS games at a slightly higher resolution and smooth over the textures... but there's kinda no point. It wasn't their goal when they created the DSi...
 

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@Fabis94: I do own both a dslite and psp. DS is not all about the graphics. If graphics is what you want then don't fabricate things like Nintendo loosing money yadda yadda and just buy a goddamn psp
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But once you understand the true purpose of the DS, you're gonna love it more than the PSP hehe.

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I grew up in the 80's, so like some of the older games, I know that fancy graphics DO NOT make a game.
Nintendo have tried (and succeeded) to remember that games are all about FUN. I remember when the highest resolution screen was 192x160 with perhaps 4 on-screen colours at a time (out of a fixed 16 colour palette), it didn't make those games crap, and it didn't make higher resolution games better. I still prefer some older games to more modern once (by older I mean 20+ years old, not 3 years) and so do some of you guys I bet. It does not matter how powerful the hardware is to make a good game, only that you think about the game your making and not try to sell any old crap just because you can make it in 3D with a super high resolution.
To quote a semi-popular song/flash animation, "The games you get today, well, they might be very flash. But they'll never beat the thrill or getting through Jetpac..." (Jetpac is a simple yet fun game with a screen resolution similar to the DS and a fixed 16 [terrible] colour palette, and was released in 1983).

So, please don't say that releasing a 'lower-spec' machine is a mistake, in many cases, it is the higher-spec machine that is the mistake as dev's tend to think that making a crap game with nice gfx and particle effects is much better than making an excellent game with average gfx.
 

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I can see where the original poster is coming from. Yes, I love all the games on Nintendo consoles (mostly first party ones but eh)
But every system the big N has brought out is always lagging behind the rest in terms of power or graphics, Im not saying Nintendo should go for the PS3 and 360 path,
but it would just be nice to have a better powered system.

I mean, come on, 4MB of ram on the DSL? What the shit
 

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Well N64 and GameCube in their day were awesomely powerful machines. Both failed. Ever since Nintendo have gone with their underpowered gimmicky consoles they have been printing money. So I guess they know how to sell things to people now.
 
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