nds-card.com Caused unauthorized credit card charges?

Discussion in 'Online Stores and Purchases' started by AceValence, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. AceValence
    OP

    AceValence Newbie

    Newcomer
    7
    0
    Mar 22, 2014
    United States
    Hello GBATemp,
    I've recently ordered a R4i 3DS Gold RTS flashcart from nds-card.com. I chose them after a couple weeks of researching on forums, and it seemed that they would be the most reliable, being that they are one of the official sponsors of this reputable forums. Before I made my order, I was slightly disturbed by the following thread:

    http://gbatemp.net/threads/beware-of-nds-card-com-creditcard-fraud.357606/

    However, as the forum authority Costello dismissed this thread as "bullshit," I felt confident and continued with my purchase, on 4/13/14. As of this morning 4/14, the package is described as shipped out, according to the tracking number they provided me. However, I was alarmed when my father complained that Bank of America called about a dozen unauthorized purchases (will edit later with ss) on his card. I don't have much doubt that my cart will arrive, even if I must wait the 35 days described, but I am very alarmed by the charges... I don't mean to slander a "trusted retailer" of gbatemp, but I must warn that either:

    1. My information was compromised during the process by a separate party
    2. Fashionpay.com is using the information given by the customers of the otherwise honest nds-card.com without their knowledge
    3. nds.card.com is using my information intentionally
    4. Someone was listening when my dad kept repeating the CC number loudly -.-
     
  2. techboy

    techboy GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Member
    1,720
    21
    Mar 15, 2009
    United States
    Pennsylvania
    Might as well add another case. I haven't personally used them, but my friend who doesnt have an account here did (he asked where to buy a flashcart, I mentioned they were one we recommend here) and had something similar happen. About a day after he ordered a flashcart, he got 7 fraudulent charges. The bank removed them, but still, quite a bit of frustration.

    We really might want to reconsider recommending them.

    It's worth noting though that yes he did receive the flashcart just fine, so they do in fact deliver on the purchase you make.
     
  3. AceValence
    OP

    AceValence Newbie

    Newcomer
    7
    0
    Mar 22, 2014
    United States
    Alright then... it appears that nds-card is unaware of the fraudulent charges associated with their 3rd-party payment handler, fashionpay.com. I hope noone else has any issues with nds-card.com, since it seems that most people don't have issues like this, fashionpay must be selecting certain orders to "feed" from to hide from nds-card.com
     
  4. Sicklyboy

    Sicklyboy Resident Mechanical Keyboard Addict

    Global Moderator
    5,709
    4,643
    Jul 15, 2009
    United States
    [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]
    May want to make Costello aware that we have some new reports of this :unsure:
     
    Ericthegreat likes this.
  5. techboy

    techboy GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Member
    1,720
    21
    Mar 15, 2009
    United States
    Pennsylvania
    Some googling suggests that there's a lot of complaints regarding fashionpay (actually a company called SHT).

    Most of the scam/fraud sites give them a bad score though. Some are due to people improperly reporting them in place of the bad vendor they bought from (usually obvious, they say they never received X...fashionpay does not sell anything aside from the payment service), but still, I can't find too many people saying good things about them.
     
  6. Costello

    Costello Headmaster

    Administrator
    12,389
    5,596
    Oct 24, 2002
    I am going to report to the owner of NDS-Card and see what can be done about this.

    Obviously, NDS-Card are not the culprit here, if anything it would be their payment gateway (Fashionpay)
    I will recommend them to change their payment gateway supplier.

    Also it is worth nothing that while a few people may have had issues, let's keep in mind that NDS-Card has thousands of orders every day and they go just fine. There's been over thirty people that posted reviews on Shoptemp http://shoptemp.net/shop/nds-card.html these are legitimate reviews from actual GBAtemp users. So let's not generalize.

    [edit] NDS Card have been informed.

    [edit 2] I can't seem to find other cases of credit card fraud related to Fashionpay. If anyone finds anything, please PM me?
    There is a strong possibility that these two persons got their computer hacked, which is incredibly common, so their credit card information may have been stolen that way.
     
  7. wesleyxiao

    wesleyxiao Member

    Newcomer
    18
    6
    Feb 23, 2012
    Switzerland
    shenzhen
    Dear AceValence,
    We have contacted you about the issue, any questions please feel free to let us know.

    nds-card.com
     
  8. AceValence
    OP

    AceValence Newbie

    Newcomer
    7
    0
    Mar 22, 2014
    United States
    I would like to thank you all for replying very quickly, especially to Wesley. At this moment I do not hold anything against nds-card.com, and I do not doubt that my package will be delivered correctly. However, it seems my business lies only in the bank and possibly with fashionpay.com. Best wishes to all :)
     
  9. wesleyxiao

    wesleyxiao Member

    Newcomer
    18
    6
    Feb 23, 2012
    Switzerland
    shenzhen
    Dear everyone,
    We have confirmed the question with fashionpay company.
    They replied that just a small part of orders will be charged less than 5% of cross-border fee by the issuer banks, but they must not record credit card information, which is absolutely forbidden and illegal.
    Fashionpay is certified by visa card organization and Chinese bank system, so it is safe and trustful. fashionpay email is service1@fashionpay.com. Any questions about the visa payment, you can contact them and us immediately.
    Thanks very much for your trusting and supporting.
    Have a nice day, everyone.

    nds-card.com
     
    Costello likes this.
  10. migles

    migles Mei the sexiest bae

    Member
    GBAtemp Patron
    migles is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    6,630
    4,351
    Sep 19, 2013
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    my dad works for nintendo.
    can you people give feedback when this is over? so we know what happened, if the user had been hacked or some error etc?
     
  11. AceValence
    OP

    AceValence Newbie

    Newcomer
    7
    0
    Mar 22, 2014
    United States
    Well, yesterday, I got some emails about the whatever that the info thief bought.
    ExhibitA.png ExhibitB.png
    Great. Notice how it was sent to MY email, not my dads. I gave my personal email to only fashionpay, through nds-card.com. Either I was hacked (no evidence of a virus after many scans) or fashionpay uses customer's information to buy them stuff? No thanks, I really don't need the female-oriented weight loss program. Anyways, it is not nds-card's fault, and I will just settle this with the bank really quick. May post more Screenshots at a later date...

    [EDIT:] Notice that the orders are from Gaiam.com... a yoga and women's fitness site?
     
  12. migles

    migles Mei the sexiest bae

    Member
    GBAtemp Patron
    migles is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    6,630
    4,351
    Sep 19, 2013
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    my dad works for nintendo.
    i found a strange thing, when i tried to purchase from nds-card, using fashionpay after providing my card details to fashionpay and pressed proceed, firefox warned me about conection was not secured... after ignoring it the fashionpay payment said it was loading and eventually directed me to nds card page

    i find it really weird on fashion page website, there are still msn contacts and some of the contacts are " system-noreply5@fashionpay.net"

    the page is so simple and the faq is like, dumb... but maybe its because its a translated website, the chinese version is really different.. but this gives a bad impression
     
  13. rupennybags

    rupennybags Newbie

    Newcomer
    1
    0
    Jan 26, 2015
    United States

    What makes you so sure, man? I was about to order something from them and saw they don't even have SSL on the page where they ask for your credit card information (!) so I looked them up and ended up here. I'll just accept that the guys at the site are probably not intentionally running a credit card harvesting operation, but that's pretty lax security (although other retailers seem to have similarly questionable practices in this regard).
     
  14. xdrako23x

    xdrako23x Crash Bandicoot

    Member
    259
    23
    Jan 21, 2015
    Canada
    What have happen
     
  15. stanleyopar2000

    stanleyopar2000 The Official GBATEMP Thread Killer. No Mercy.

    Member
    3,976
    600
    Jun 22, 2007
    United States
    any updates on this??? RealHotstuff is gone so I need to consider my other options
     
  16. xdrako23x

    xdrako23x Crash Bandicoot

    Member
    259
    23
    Jan 21, 2015
    Canada
    Since it is the trusted seller for gbatemp
     
  17. stanleyopar2000

    stanleyopar2000 The Official GBATEMP Thread Killer. No Mercy.

    Member
    3,976
    600
    Jun 22, 2007
    United States
    guess not.

     
  18. easycrashing

    easycrashing GBAtemp Regular

    Member
    144
    12
    Nov 30, 2010
    United States
    yea, went to go there other day and saw it had no products :(
     
  19. GammaGeorgeX

    GammaGeorgeX GBAtemp Regular

    Member
    111
    11
    Apr 19, 2011
    Belarus
    ooooooooh they're crooks. Time to ditch them suddenly for no good reason like what happened with Etcome here! Yay!
    I suppose, of course, 'tis good to drive out the pandas that lie in nds-card! All pandas lie, so 'tis never safe! That's why something like this happened!