n64 games on ds?

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  1. jake0036
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    Well I was playing Zelda on my n64 and I wondered is it possible to play n64 games on ds

    Or was Mario 64 ds a major port?
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  2. chuckstudios

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    Not possible.
     
  3. skullstatue

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    No, it's not possible. Nor will it ever be, the DS isn't eight times as powerful as the N64, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
     
  4. tenchan4

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    actually, there are a lot of 64 games i wish Nintendo would port to the DS. Only they'd probably want to include the touchscreen in some sort of fashion. There's a lot of gold on the 64. If Nintendo would let these games be ported as is, they'd have a lot of happy fanboys.

    Some games I wish they'd port are:
    Mario Tennis
    Mario Golf
    Paper Mario
    Both Zeldas
    Conker's Bad Fur Day
    Perfect Dark
     
  5. .TakaM

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    why is this stickied?
    to prevent the question from being asked again?
     
  6. dbgtdob

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    N64 is 93mhzs while a ds is only 67mhz, its just not powerful enough not to mention on zelda majoras mask, you had to install that ram pack into your N64 to play it for those old enough to remember.
     
  7. iwakura

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    agreed. not worthy of sticky...
     
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  9. AMPonzi

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    Well one thing is that the Nintendo DS has two CPUs one at 67MHz and the other at 33MHz with 4MB of memory and seperate video memory. The Nintendo 64 has a 93.75MHz processor with a "Reality Co-Processor" at 62.5MHz and 4MB of RAM expandable to 8MB.

    Most N64 games could virtually be ported to Nintendo DS. One thing is that the N64 supported resolutions of up to 640x480, Nintendo DS supports one resolution, 256x384 (counting both screens). Besides that, one of those screens is usually just a map or something without 3D graphics. So knock that down to 256x192. Nintendo DS cartridges, I assume, have a faster transfer speed than Nintendo 64 cartridges and the memory is probably faster. Not only that, ARM is a very efficient architecture which means that more tasks can be completed in less instructions and memory is more efficient.

    Emulating N64 games on DS is 100% impossible, but most games could be relatively easily ported to DS. Other games would need a virtually perfect port with every optimization in the book to work, games like Majora's Mask may be able to handle it if the memory is more efficiently used. That separate video memory on the DS would certainly help wonders.

    Here's how this discussion ends...

    Emulation of N64 on NDS = impossible
    Porting of some N64 games to NDS = easy
    Porting of other N64 games to NDS = very difficult

    Enjoy, thanks for listening!
     
  10. Scorpin200

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    not gonna happen
     
  11. phoood

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    So as the OP said, was Mario 64 a major remake?
     
  12. dice

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    yes.
     
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    Now.. that makes everything clear! [​IMG]
     
  14. JPH

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    I wish they ported Zelda instead of Mario 64...whatever, they gave us Phantom Hourglass....
     
  15. OSW

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    meh. Mario 64 was still a fair choice. it's an epic game, perhaps more easily ported too.

    however it would be nice to have oot or majora's mask too.

    I'm sure they be very popular sales.
     
  16. Hadrian

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    I don't think any Zelda 64 titles would work as well on the DS which is why Phantom Hourglass is the way it is. I don't them doing anymore N64 ports either, it would piss a lot of people off if they were asked to pay for a full price N64 port of a ten year old game when its on VC for less. Maybe Dk64 as thats would be a large download but that would need a lot of downgrading I guess.
     
  17. L_o_N_e_R

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    ill be buying oot and MM if it comes out for the ds...

    i miss those games [​IMG]
     
  18. pasc

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    I wished some ultra haxzor guys could invent an converter that converts the N64 Games into games runnable by the DS.

    I think emulating the N64 is the wish we all have for our beloved DS, but which will never happen [​IMG]

    BTW: WTF ? eight times more powerfull ? PSP runs those games Fullspeed with ONLY 222 Mhz... the DS has 99 if you count both Arm Processors...
     
  19. leetdude_007

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    It's not going to happen. The rule of thumb is that the machine has to be 10 times more powerful to function flawlessly. Tricks like optimizations and compromises help a bit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_emulator
     
  20. Cocodrilo

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    A emulator may is impossible... But port some games would be good! Badly damn nintendo sold Rare to Microsoft, but i would love to see new or old Banjo and Kazooie to the DS...
     
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