n3ds mSD management way faster than FTP homebrews

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  1. Timburpton
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    Is there a reason why the micro sd management transfer speeds are so so so much faster than FTP transfers?

    EDIT: Because some people can't read. I'm not asking for homebrew ftp to be as fast as direct copying to sd card via card reader. I'm asking if there's a way for FTP homebrew to be as fast as nintendo's microsd management app.
     
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  2. squee666

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    probably to do with how it accesses hardware
     
  3. Timburpton
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    Would it be possible to create a homebrew that makes it wireless file transfer as fast as mSD management?
     
  4. SimplyFedorable

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    no, the 3ds wireless chip simply isnt that fast. No amount of software will speed it up faster than sd transfers
     
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  5. Timburpton
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    What?
     
  6. Lia

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    No amount of software will speed it up faster than sd cards.
    What do you mean, "what"

    Lemme explain. When you transfer to msd, you are transferring directly to the sd card (more or less). When you are transferring over ftp, you have to send it over the Internet, which will have further to go, since the file is near on the 3ds, and will be dependant on your internet speed being fast.
     
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  7. Ricken

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    I would assume not, as homebrew runs off the SD, while the SKD runs off NAND
     
  8. EmuAGR

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    No and no. You're not writing to the SD directly. Also, when the 3DS is connected to your WiFi, nothing is sent over the Internet.
     
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    What? The op is asking if you can have ftp transfers as fast as msd transfers. And if you want to transfer files to your pc/3ds, you're going to be writing some files to your 3ds/pc. If you want to write to the sd card, I hate to break it to you, but

    This next part will shock you

    And even if he wants to transfer files from the sd card to his computer, my point still stands when reversed.
     
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    It probably has something to do with stability optimisation and server types (iirc mSD management is SMB, while FTP clients are... FTP). And actually, recent FTP homebrews are as fast as mSD management now.
     
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    Really? o_o

    But if you're transferring over the internet, your internet might slow you down, still.
    I mean, I can't get 120MBPS when transferring to my 3ds.
     
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    Nobody can due to the limitations of a b/g/n connection. Unfortunately, the 3DS only supports this. However, FTP has always seemed faster and more reliable to me than the mSD Management app. Plus the way it handles the Samba share limits the use of it to Windows, which is lame.
     
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    Why would you bother transferring over the internet? I doubt the 3DS works well as that kind of FTP server, it's more of just for transferring over your local network. As for transfer speeds I've experienced, I find the newer FTPd builds far faster than the microSD Manager which just works over SAMBA. Remember, b = bits and B = Bytes.
     
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    You're not transferring over the Internet when using an FTP app on your 3DS.

    When you're loading a webpage, for example, it will be like: Computer ---> Router ---> Server ---> Router ---> Computer (let's keep things simple).
    When you're transferring files to your 3DS over FTP, it will be like: Computer ---> Router ---> 3DS.
    ---> = files / data are transferred over the Internet
    ---> = files / data are transferred over your router (= Wi-Fi / Ethernet)
     
  15. Lia

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    Yup, 120MBS.
    Whoops, you're right. Sorry.
     
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    Semantics are fun. But yes, it should be referred to as network transferring.
     
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    I mean exactly that.

    I'm asking if there's a way for homebrew ftp to be as fast as nintendo's build in mSD management app. I am not asking for homebrew to be as fast as direct copying to sd via card reader.
     
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    As stated above, it's already as fast if not faster in later builds.
     
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    Yeah, you aren't going to get that speed through the 3DS's wireless hardware. The OP was talking about transferring over the network, either through microSD Manager or a fork of FTPd, so that information isn't that relevant.
     
  20. Timburpton
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    I'm using ftpd2.2 (with winscp) and its slower than mSD management though.