N3DS Firmware 11.0Possible to downgrade without hardmod?

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  1. Jackson Ferrell
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    Hi, I got my N3DS able to load homebrew on 11.0 finally, but I was wondering if I could downgrade it without hardmodding it?
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  2. Damon_girl

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    No you can't. There's no way to do it without a hardmod currently.
     
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  3. vb_encryption_vb

    vb_encryption_vb That hardmod guy....

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    Nope.
     
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  4. Dracari

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    Cant. been hard coded into 11.0 for teh time being no way to get around what was done to prevent downgrading outside hardmoding.
     
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  5. TechAndrew

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    Yes, there's a limited number of ways to load Homebrew on 11.0.0-33U firmware, however, Downgrading won't be possible as 11.0.0-33U firmware has patched the required exploits to do so.
     
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  6. Jackson Ferrell
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    Is there a way to get an emunand set up or is that prevented for now?
     
  7. Mboy32

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    Nope and im in your boat buddy im going to throw my 3ds in a hole until it becomes hackable again!
     
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  8. vb_encryption_vb

    vb_encryption_vb That hardmod guy....

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    Nope, needs to be hardmodded. If you have zero soldering skill send it off and pay someone to do it.

    That's going to be awhile, if ever.
     
  9. Mboy32

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    ik Im also thinking about getting a 2ds just for pirating.
     
  10. TechAndrew

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    Here's an explanation of why your 3DS isn't downgrade-able:
    The 3DS consists of 2 CPU's;
    The ARM9 CPU, which deals with Security, Encryption, Validation, etc.
    The ARM11 CPU, which deals with Executing and Running Games.

    The 11.0.0-33U firmware has patched all of the ARM9 exploits available at the moment, and patched most ARM11 exploits.
    A limited amount of ARM11 exploits (Homebrew Launching) still work *mostly* in 11.0.0-33U firmware, including Freakyhax and SmashBrosHax.

    In order to gain the ability to exploit the ARM9 CPU, the following would have to be done:
    1. Hard Mod your 3DS, so its NAND can be Read/Written by a computer (preferably Windows). Many trusted people worldwide, on GBATemp, offer NAND Mod services (sometimes paired up with downgrading):
    https://gbatemp.net/threads/list-of-hardmod-installers-by-region.414224/
    2. Read the NAND, and modify its 11.0.0-33U firmware in order to downgrade it:
    https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Hardmod-Downgrade
    3. Write the downgraded NAND copy to your 3DS's NAND, and your 3DS is now partially downgraded, but enough to be able to go ahead with the next step.
    4. Due to the fact that the 3DS's NATIVE_FIRM is downgraded, you are now able to fully exploit the ARM11 CPU, which means that you can downgrade even more (which is necessary).
    5. Due to the fact that the ARM9 CPU exploits were patched after 9.2.0-20U, you must downgrade your now downgrade-able 3DS to 9.2.0-20U.
    6. Congratulations, both of your 3DS's CPU's are now fully exploitable, and therefore, A9LH and CFW, which require both CPU's to be exploited, can be installed with caution.

    All the required additional and extra information can be found here, in this handy guide:
    https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Hardmod-Downgrade

    I apologize for the "Hard Mod Inconvenience", but you're always able to swap your 3DS with a friend who is okay with it (some of my friends have 3DS's they haven't used since 2011, but I personally have no need for them.)
    As a last resort, you can also sell your 3DS (buy first if you want to System Transfer), and then you can buy one for a desired price from many different websites and people...

    I hope this post clears up confusion, especially for people who are new here.
    Andrew21
     
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  11. Mboy32

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    so buying a 2ds is basically easier lmao
     
  12. TechAndrew

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    A Hard Mod to your 3DS (which has many more features than a 2DS) would usually cost less than buying a whole new 2DS.
     
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    hmm could you link me to a tutorial video thats not in spanish (every fucking tutorial I have seen is in spanish)
     
  14. Dracari

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    Pretty much. Sorry :/ you could save yourself Some time by going w/ a person on teh forums thats trusted to have it modded.
     
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    And if you count the amount of time it takes to get A9LH up and running, you'd understand why many people take this route.

    Well, what 3DS model do you have? Old, New? 3DS, 3DS XL?
     
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    O3DS
     
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    vb_encryption_vb That hardmod guy....

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    You wont really find a tutorial for the soldering portion. If you have zero experience soldering, do not attempt. If its a non xl, than i really advise you not to attempt.
     
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    You're welcome.