More Shops opens on 14.04.2020 - Maybe the Economy puts Pressure on it ?

[Alexander1970]

"Side Story" Two and a half Hour ago.....for tomorrows Lockdown....

https://orf.at/stories/3187756/

Dead and injured after being shot

Secretary of the Interior Minister Karl Nehammer (ÖVP) described the shooting in downtown Vienna on Monday evening as an "apparent terrorist attack". The large-scale operation is still going on. So far it has been confirmed that one passerby has been killed and at least 15 people injured, seven of them seriously. One of the alleged perpetrators was shot dead by the police.

...Coincidence with tomorrows Lockdown ? Sure.
Has nothing to do with it...I think.....

But this did not help us all in the momentary Situation....this Year is really not easy...

 

[Alexander1970]

COVID and Terror is a really bad Combination,but very effective for Panic and Fear...

 

[omgcat]

Absolutely. Sweden is 'the control' in this comparison. (Sweden is also 'the control' in the the 'do school closings work' case - because they were pretty much the only western country not to close schools during the epidemic.)

Here - watch this:

one thing to remember is that herd immunity goes out the window if lasting immunity does not happen. we know that asymptomatic reinfection can occur when someone runs into a mutated strain (i think so far 4 are running around). if covid immunity only lasts from 2-9 months, a vaccine is the only alternative to restructuring our society. like sure, only 1% die, but if this thing keeps looping around the countries because you're only safe for up to 9 months after, that 1% increases a lot.

 

[weatMod]

ok this is really weird, my post has just disappeared into the ether
no record of it anywhere

i guess someone here wants us to eat the bugs

Spoiler

 

[Alexander1970]

And of course,I forgot to mention,the Obligation to wear a Masks and the "Keep the Distance" Order is paused,because COVID makes a "break" ......because of the Terror....



What a crazy Time.....

 

[Viri]

I read the thread title, after reading about European countries going back into lock down.

 

[Alexander1970]

I read the thread title, after reading about European countries going back into lock down.

Yes,we are again in the Situation...and now this Terror Situation in Vienna yesterday...
That's how it looks at the Moment.
But I think other Countries have actual also their "Packages"....so,we are not alone.

 

[notimp]

one thing to remember is that herd immunity goes out the window if lasting immunity does not happen. we know that asymptomatic reinfection can occur when someone runs into a mutated strain (i think so far 4 are running around). if covid immunity only lasts from 2-9 months, a vaccine is the only alternative to restructuring our society. like sure, only 1% die, but if this thing keeps looping around the countries because you're only safe for up to 9 months after, that 1% increases a lot.

Yes and no. Depending on the vaccination rate - it seems to be viable to aim for 'renewed' vaccination every year. (Decent likelyhood of vaccination effectiveness being able to be stretched to 6 months. ('Winter months'))) Which means, depending on adoption rate, you can still go for those effects.

But you need yearly vaccination in the mix.

 

[Alexander1970]

Info about the Assassin:

Der Mann war einschlägig wegen terroristischer Vereinigung (Paragraf 278b StGB) vorbestraft und wollte nach Syrien reisen. Er wurde im April 2019 zu 22 Monaten Haft verurteilt, im Dezember desselben Jahres aber vorzeitig bedingt entlassen. Er galt als junger Erwachsener und fiel damit unter die Privilegien des Jugendgerichtsgesetzes.

The man had a relevant criminal record (Section 278b StGB) and wanted to travel to Syria. He was sentenced to 22 months in prison in April 2019, but was released early on parole in December of the same year. He was considered a young adult and thus fell under the privileges of the Juvenile Court Act.


There is a lot to be said about our laws - see the curfew from 0:00 today
I hope Austria continues his political "Line" to absorb every "rubbish" in our beautiful Country ...

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https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/oesterreich-anschlag-101.html

According to Interior Minister Nehammer, the perpetrator was a 20-year-old man who had an Austrian and North Macedonian passport. His name was given as Kujtim F.

The assassin wanted to travel to Syria in 2018 to join the terrorist organization "Islamic State" (IS). According to information from NDR, WDR and "SZ" he was in contact with German Islamists. During the attempted trip to Syria, he stayed in Turkey for several days in a house where two German and one Belgian IS supporters were staying. This emerges from the judgment of the Vienna Regional Court of April 2019.

In the afternoon, Minister Nehammer informed about the status of the investigation.

However, F. was prevented from continuing his journey and sentenced to 22 months in prison in Austria in April 2019 for membership in a terrorist group. In December, F. had been "prematurely conditionally released". According to the Austrian Interior Minister, he previously successfully completed a deradicalization program in order to obtain early release from prison. The young man deceived the authorities

 

[Alexander1970]

The Vienna Assassin tried to buy Ammunition in Slovakia in the Summer.
According to Information from "Süddeutsche Zeitung" ("SZ"), NDR and WDR,the Purchase failed due to a missing Gun License.
The Slovak Police confirmed the purchase attempt today in a Facebook post.
The Austrian Authorities have also been informed of the case.
The Slovak Police received information in the summer that suspicious people from Austria were trying to buy ammunition. But they did not succeed in acquiring anything, the authority wrote on Facebook.
The Austrian Police were informed immediately.
There will be no further comments from the Slovak authorities in order not to jeopardize the investigations in Austria.
A spokesman for the Ministry of the Interior confirmed yesterday evening to the "SZ" that the domestic authorities had been informed.
There was initially no information on this from the APA today.

https://orf.at/stories/3188148/

 

[Alexander1970]

Mistakes were made....but now everyone is blaming each other again instead of working together on a Solution...

Two days after the Islamist-motivated attack in downtown Vienna, which resulted in four deaths and 23, some seriously injured, the political discussion is increasingly coming to the fore. On Wednesday afternoon, Interior Minister Karl Nehammer (ÖVP) admitted official errors in the run-up to the attack. Nehammer directed hard allegations to his predecessor in the Ministry of the Interior, Herbert Kickl (FPÖ). He in turn did not spare criticism of the current interior minister.

https://orf.at/stories/3188219/

 

[Alexander1970]

..and it is getting better and better.....
(Assassin Case)

https://orf.at/stories/3188445/

Eight arrested persons previously convicted Eight of the 15 arrested after the terrorist attack in Vienna have already been convicted of various crimes.
As Interior Minister Karl Nehammer (ÖVP) said at a press conference today, four of them were convicted of terrorist offenses, two of various violent crimes and two of attempted honor killing in Linz.
According to the Director General for Public Security, Franz Ruf, the two men convicted of attempted honor killing received long prison terms.
One was sentenced to ten years in prison in 2012 and released in 2017.
The other at five years and six months. He was released in 2015. It was possible to identify the perpetrator (shot by officials) after only four hours, according to Nehammer.

Thanks to the quick identification and meticulous investigative work, the house searches were quickly carried out in the same night, said the minister.


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Oh,yes,of Course COVID News for Austria.


Ministries report more than 7,000 new infections
The Ministry of Health and the Ministry of the Interior have reported 7,416 newly registered coronavirus cases (as of today, 9:30 a.m.) within the last 24 hours.
The new figures were communicated at 1:23 p.m.
A total of 132,515 people have tested positive in Austria since the beginning of the pandemic.
2,737 people have to be treated in hospital because of the infection, 407 of them in the intensive care unit.
So far, 1,268 people have died as a result of the infection, meaning 41 people have died within the last 24 hours.

AGES: 59,172 active cases According to the figures on the AGES dashboard, there are (as of yesterday, 2 p.m.) 59,172 active coronavirus cases.
The new dashboard replaced that of the Ministry of Health.
These are significantly more active cases than in the counting method of the two ministries, as those who have recovered are registered more slowly in the new system.
In addition, new cases are no longer assigned to the registration time, but to the date of the laboratory diagnosis, which may have taken place days before.
This makes the curve of the course of the epidemic more precise, but changes the number of newly reported infections that has been used as a characteristic value, which is still communicated by the Ministry of Interior and Health.
7-day incidence in 379 More meaningful, however, is the number of positively diagnosed cases over the past seven days per 100,000 inhabitants (7-day incidence), which is 379 (as of yesterday, 2 p.m.).

 

[Alexander1970]

We did it,we are on full Course RED,I am quite surprised..
...or should I say "Congratulations,Austria."

https://corona-ampel.gv.at/

 

[Alexander1970]

Painted by Walter Molino in 1962:

Titled "Life in 2022"

 

[Alexander1970]

Unofficial (will be confirmed tomorrow) but unavoidable - Monday,16.November is "Full" Lockdown" Time again....

But this Time absolute not comprehensible to close School again.....
That will cause a little "Fatal Blow" to the Kids and the Society,for sure....

Commerce and Business too - yes,this will be definitely the "End" for many,many little Companies....
Some of the promised Support Payments from the first Lockdown have still not been received..

This Time,with this Decision for the Lockdown,Politics have really failed completely....

You can see it as positive as possible but this Time......

 

[notimp]

https://www.derstandard.at/story/20...uell-mit-hoechster-neuinfektionsrate-weltweit (german)
I better not translate this one... Too depressing.

 

[Alexander1970]

https://www.derstandard.at/story/20...uell-mit-hoechster-neuinfektionsrate-weltweit (german)
I better not translate this one... Too depressing.

Thank you,my Friend.

.....anyways it does not matter anymore.
Complete Lockdown for the next 3 Weeks...




Yeah,more free Time for Gaming.

 

[Alexander1970]

As said,it does not matter anymore...what the Politics are thinking about todays (Saturday) Announcement ?
All People STAY HOME ?

https://oesterreich.orf.at/stories/3075971/

Spoiler: Today...

Big rush for business The reports of an impending hard lockdown in connection with the closure of most shops caused a high frequency in many shopping centers and shopping streets in Austria on Saturday.
Long queues formed in front of some shops.
With the exception of supermarkets, tobacconists, gas stations and workshops, shops should close from Tuesday.
The operations in construction, home furnishings and electronics stores in Upper Austria, for example, were correspondingly large.
Mainly DIY accessories and Advent decorations were bought.
Shopping centers, hardware stores and hairdressers Shopping centers in Vorarlberg, Innsbruck in Tyrol and Upper Austria were also “busy”.
The parking spaces in front of hardware stores, furniture stores and electronics stores were already full in the morning.
The high discounts that were offered by some shops are also likely to have led to the high frequency.
There was also a lot of activity at the hairdressers: According to the Linz hairdresser Gert Bachmayr, people have learned from the first lockdown and want to have their hair cut or dyed quickly.
The next free appointments with many hairdressers will not be available until January

And what they think of Monday before the Lockdown applies ?

*sigh*

This seems all so senseless....

 

[notimp]

Kopf hoch. (Translation: A little more muted: Cheer up. )

 

[Alexander1970]

And there it goes,our Freedom and Independence ... like in the 1930s .....

The SPÖ will not agree to the tightened lockdown in the main committee of the National Council this evening.
Party leader Pamela Rendi-Wagner considers an "emergency brake" to be necessary, but she rejects the conversion of schools to distance learning.
"The data show: Closing schools has little use and very large side effects," criticized Rendi-Wagner in a press conference. It also warned the government of “flying blind” into a third lockdown.
"If nothing improves dramatically in the federal government's corona management, then shortly after the second lockdown we will see an increase in corona cases again, you can't look that fast," warned Rendi-Wagner of a third lockdown.
Instead of the mass tests announced by Chancellor Sebastian Kurz (ÖVP) in the “press hour”, which would only bring a “snapshot”, systematic tests are needed in risk groups in nursing and old people's homes, health workers and teachers, the SPÖ boss demanded.

Very true Words of the SPÖ and FPÖ....

https://orf.at/stories/3189908/

The reaction of the FPÖ to Kurz's appearance was hearty: "First, ÖVP Chancellor Kurz puts the Austrians in 'solitary confinement', then compulsorily prescribed mass tests are to follow, which should then transition relatively seamlessly into the forced vaccination of the population," said the blue Vice club boss Dagmar Belakowitsch in a broadcast.

"An emergency brake is needed, but in no way is it necessary to close schools in Austria," said Rendi-Wagner, explaining why the SPÖ will not agree to the tightened lockdown in the main committee of the National Council on Sunday evening. Because the ÖVP and the Greens have a majority there, the government is not dependent on the votes of the opposition anyway.

Democracy in his purest Form....