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  1. PatrickD85

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    So this did not go any place it seems.
    But I must say still props for the Autoloader though!
     
  2. ghjfdtg

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    The people starting to call names again don't seem to understand. No one is saying this is undoubtedly fake (the previous news from the reseller was). You should take it with a grain of salt as long as it is not shown working (with a legit video unlike the last one which was proven fake because that was not an ipatched unit).
     
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    A team with already stained reputation making claims on a modchip in development without providing any actual info. It's not that people go out of their way to hate on SX (people are hyped for Mariko/Lite hack regardless of who will provide one) - skepticism is pretty justified here.
     
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    Im going to start to think its a real fale.. they Said end of the year..
     
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    No its not. How is any of their reputation "stained"...? Only because youre salty that its paid only? Smh.

    Who knows how they get the files for the exploit ..? Could even be theyre sold the exploit from the devs, or could even be part of the teams that find them. I mean they would make money and protect their privacy. Not to mention this happens every single time. Its kind of odd that one team finds a vulnerability, releases something to exploit the vulnerability, around the same time someone goes to release a paid version (ie gateway, sx, etc.). Im sure they pay the devs and they hand the shit over. Or are part of the team. Its a good way to get money and look good, from an individual standpoint, while protecting themselves.

    But i digress. Youre literally going off of baseless pessimism. They wouldnt say theyve got something working just to fool people. Your bias is influencing your train of thought via irrationality.
     
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    Alledgedly, they sell open source code, and they didn't really do much to refute the claims. Objectively, they inserted brick code into their firmware (a HUGE no-no for homebrew community) without telling anyone about it and denied responsibility for broken consoles. If that's not a stain on their reputation, I don't know what is.

    We don't demand to know how they get files for the exploit - all we need is to see a working prototype, and until they actually deliver some footage of Mariko/Lite being hacked, their "WE'LL MAKE A MOD SOON WE PROMISE!" doesn't sound all that convincing.

    If a company is willing to break consoles and ignore open source licenses, I don't see how they wouldn't hype people with fake product for cheap publicity boost.
     
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    Let's esperate they will make an announcement for christmas
     
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    Been following this for a while. It doesnt seem we'll be seeing something tangible soon... Any thoughts?
     
  9. Game_Over_Tom

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    Nobody was ever bricked by that code except the person attempting to unpack sx os and it also didn't work as he successfully did unpack it without ruining his switch.

    Also the emmc was not bricked, rather locked with a password which was also revealed.

    That code hasn't existed inside sx os since sx os v1.2 anyway. This is a non-issue for anyone using sx os ever since. People just love to hate though. Digging up stuff from far in the past to attack TX right now. ;)
     
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    I mean yeah, but why was the brick code there to begin with? I'm not buying it was for a "hacker challenge".
     
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    It still does not change the fact that TX themselves decided to implement malicious code in their own homebrew. There were no good intentions by doing something like that which speaks a little about TX themselves. Very few programs out there have brick code out there and the most notable example Gateway. Without even drawing parallels, it definitely does not help TX's image. Imagine if word got out that a major developer implemented brick code in one of their products such as Nintendo or Microsoft? Sure the press would have a field day but public morale would plummet as not only would people trust the company less but the company also does not trust in their own product to an extent. You are indirectly defending brick code which is in of itself inexcusable. But this is all a discussion best reserved for another thread.

    I don't get why people think this is fake just because there was no date. For the most part, developments in hacking and homebrew have never had dates. And the few times where dates were released, demands were not met in time which just led to frustration and disappointment. There was never a release date for SX OS, Atmosphere, or even Fusee Gelee but they all came out so why does this modchip require one to be legitimate? TX may have withheld the truth a couple of times but they have never outright lied.
     
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    Even if the brick code was "removed" it shows to which lengths they will go to protect what is mostly code taken and sold with zero credits. None of the original devs agreed they can use the code and the license requires providing the source code (Now someone will come with the argument again they are supporting piracy so it doesn't matter. That doesn't invalidate the fact they are violating licenses.).
     
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    Its like theyre trying to spin shit just to hate on it. Its childishness and immaturity. That's all it really is.

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    So how come both SX and Gateway somehow had the same "code" at literally the exact same time...? Thats the thing. Theyre probably selling the code to these companies to use them (or are part of the teams themselves), then releasing a free "pirate-less" alternative. They always pop up around the same time; there's very clearly a "deal" of some sort, or theyre part of the same teams. Who would work so fucking hard on an exploit, for nothing in return, monetarily...? And especially if one of these are the case *which im sure they are, this always happens so coincidentally*, why would they want the credit if they're trying to lay low as possible after selling the code, or connected to the teams in any way?

    I think its ignorance from "the other side", assuming each and every time this happens - paid version coming out immediately when the free one does or is discovered - (which happens every single time btw) its the assumption that "its stolen code". This happens each and every time; too much to be a coincidence. I dont buy it. I think people here just like to hate on things. Theyre immature. Theyre children. Im sure theyre pirating for their atmosphere, as well. You cant hate on something if youre doing the same.

    Again, its childishness.
     
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    Nintendo did. They intentionally bricked region changed korean wii's. Press didn't care and the same people that complain about gateway and xecuter handwaved it away with various excuses.
     
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    Was that automatic (as soon as you region changed it bricked) or manual (somehow)?
     
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    It was when you updated to whatever system update had the check.

    I can't remember what update. But it specifically checked for the Korean key and if it found it, bent you over and shafted you.

    It wasn't just an incompatiblity, it was a specific, programmed check. Look for the Korean key and if found, brick and give you an error code. Nintendo could have just made the update fail and say "modified system etc", but chose to shaft you with a brick instead.
     
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    Uh oh.
    That's kinda illegal, but who is gonna fight Ninty, right?
     
  19. Armadillo

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    Not a bug.

    https://wiibrew.org/wiki/Error_003

    "IOS tries to encrypt a certain byte pattern with the Korean key and then compares it with hard coded values, if the result matches it returns 0 which will then trigger the error in the System Menu."

    100% intentional.

    Encrypt with Korean key, if it matches, get fucked.
     
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    Brick code is here only to prevent from copy
    If you don’t touch their code, you don’t need to worry about the brick code
     
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