MGS3 re-releases: Which one is the superior version?

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Which version of MGS3 is the superior version?

  1. Metal Gear Solid (3): HD Collection (PS3/360)

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  2. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D (3DS)

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    25.9%
  3. Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence (PS2)

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Mar 10, 2012
  1. soulx
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    Well with some pictures and videos of MGS HD collection Vita version coming out, I think it begs the question, which version of MGS3 is the superior version? Is it the HD collection on the PS3/360 with the higher resolution and anti-aliasing or is it the 3DS version with the enhanced textures and 3D?

    Below is a pic of the exact same scene in MGS3 on all four versions,
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    As we can see, the HD collection for PS3/360 is the cleanest of the four with the high resolution and anti-aliasing. The Vita version is roughly the same as the HD collection albeit with less polygons. The 3DS version has more polygons and better textures but the janky framerate must be taken into account while the original game is just well the original PS2 release.

    MGS3D screenshots, photo album composed by Gamefaqs member, amars464
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    MGS3 (HD collection Vita)
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    In B4 Guild.

    In my opinon the best version of MGS3 is the one with the best control scheme and highest level of performance. Not comparing fucking polygons and resolution, I'm no graphics whore.
     
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    I like that the HD remakes have value (2, 3 and Peace Walker in one package), but I don't like to pay for things I already own.
     
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    Afaik the Vita release only has a JPN store date of June this year and it does not include Peacewalker so the obvious answer is the PS3/360 version.
     
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    1. Subsistence, not Substance.
    2. Why aren't you also mentioning the first release, that being Snake Eater? There are some differences between the original and Subsistance.
    3. The 3DS version is a remake, not a re-release (the word re-release sort of points at "port" while this game was coded from the ground up).
     
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    I keep seeing the same comparison image and seriously, the 3DS one keeps changing.

    But the HD version is the best since it's authentic to the classic, runs at a smooth framerate UNLIKE OTHER VERSIONS COUGH COUGH, looks great graphically, has achievement support (fuck y'all achievements are awesome), and the controls are better. It also has MGS2 and Peace Walker which is certainly nothing to overlook.

    I can't see anyone saying anything other than the HD re-release. The 3DS has better graphics in some areas, yeah, but it still has a bad framerate, terrible controls unless you have a CPP, and lacks all the other nooks and crannies of the HD version. Also it's a shit portable game. That's why I gave the Vita version a pass (plus it's missing Peace Walker which seems like a fucking no-brainer on the PSP successor/a handheld).
     
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    if you comparing only the MGS3 that comes in collection to the 3DS version of the game them the 3DS is better version


    it all goes down to what you want

    let be honest here MGS3 is not the best of games anyway
     
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    I agree, Kojima subsequently refused to add mushrooms to the series, making them increasingly dull with each installment. Every single MGS fan was waiting till the mushrooms appear, we all thought that they will pop up at some point, causing a plot twist. Unfortunatelly we've reached the end of the storyline and we saw no 1up shrooms nor have we seen the standard red ones. Too bad, the game could've been big (if it ate the red mushroom), right now Kojima should just get a life (by eating a green mushroom) and move on, he failed to meet our expectations.
     
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    I'd say it's one of the best told stories in gaming despite being rather crazy. I'll safely say it's the best story for a Japanese game I've played.
     
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    boy and girls look here this is how you fail troll you can tell from the idiotic statement
     
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    No, this is actually how you show someone that he or she said something delightfuly stupid.

    Metal Gear Solid 3 was the first game in the series to feature extensive open air environment, not to mention high-detail foliage. It gave us insight of how the Big Boss became who he was - before that game everybody thought he was a simple, everyday bad guy. MGS3 gave him depth and personality and introduced to us the drama that created the monster, or was he really a monster in the first place? It greatly improved on what Metal Gear Solid 2 started, re-defining the series forever when it comes to controls and gameplay style. Camuflage became more important then ever and the stealth aspect of the game was finally developed further then just the cardboard box of the original. Don't even get me started on the story, which as mentioned by Guild can be wacky at times, but is compelling and interesting nonetheless, far surpassing its contemporaries.

    Saying that the game is "meh" is ignorance to the utmost degree. This is what I said, just in a crafty way so that you don't feel belittled.
     
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    Thought I'd let you know.
     
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    The single best feature of the 3DS version is the addition of crouch-walking. It almost makes up for the sub-par framerate.



    I don't know why Kojima left that out of the HD collection.

    It's pretty much undisputed that *Subsistence is superior to the original Snake Eater unless you liked the old camera-control for some reason. It's a bit redundant to include both versions.

    Whether the 3DS version is a remake or not doesn't really matter. It's still essentially the same game with the exception of a few improvements to the visuals and control-scheme. Practically nothing else has changed.

    Yeah, I'm just comparing MGS3.
     
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    I just figured it'd be fair from a "comparison" standpoint to include all available versions, but yes, Subsistence was better and yeah, the 3DS game is very much the same, however there are differences when the engine is concerned. While it offers higher resolution graphics, it's pretty much stripped of the bloom effect for the sake of the 3D plus it has certain framerate issues - people seem to be bothered by them, so calling it "superior" to the Vita version like Mr.Valwin there is jumping the horse a bit. I'd rather play a smooth game in 2D then a choppy one in 3D.
     
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    Does it at least have the standard camera as an option? It's shit for gameplay but the motorcycle seen in the end needs to be played on the original camera for it to be actually fun. It's so cool with the regular camera but it's really dumb with the Subsistence camera.

    There's also a rare time here and there where you'll want the top-down view.
     
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    I'm confused. You don't own the Vita or the 3DS versions. You're passing judgement based on other people's judgement that you read about.

    Though frankly you're probably right anyway.
     
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    Actually the bloom effect is better in Snake Eater 3D. Can't say much about the bad framerate as I haven't played Snake Eater 3D extensively yet but I've heard that it only gets really bad in cut-scenes (although that is a large part of the game) and in one boss fight. Although the original also had frame-rate issues in some parts too. The PS3/360 version wins in that aspect with the silky smooth 60FPS.


    I'm pretty sure you can switch between the top-down camera and 3D one in Subsistence (R3?). It's a shame Konami didn't include that as an option in the 3DS version for people who don't have the Circle Pad Pro and don't want to mess around with Peacewalker-style controls.
     
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    Guild brings up a good point, the frame rate is terrible and slowed down in all versions of the game, but HD collection is the smoothest. In terms of controls, I think Snake Eater 3D is the best MGS3 because I perfer a more "action" orriented Metal Gear Solid like Peace Walker. Love the fact that crouch walking was added to Snake Eater 3D, which really makes the game so much more better than the other versions.

    It's a hard choice and sucks that you either pick the game with the better controls or better graphics. I voted Snake Eater 3D of course :P
     
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    because crouch walking is for CASUALS, needed for those casual players on a Nintendo system.

    also soulx jesus christ shut up and stop nit picking you havent even played mgs2 yet.
     
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    It's like you're really Valwin for Sony
     
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