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Marianne Williamson: ‘I Didn’t Think the Left Lied like This’

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Also Trump is fat af. Eats mostly McDonald's by his own admission.
No, he eats at KFC mostly, tyvm. That or has the white house chef make meatloaf. Personally, I'd have steak everyday all-day if I had an on call chef.

Ooh, now do a video about all the deaths caused by capitalist greed and American imperialism!
I just searched the whole internet and couldn't find a single one. Even Google search was like, "did you mean deaths caused by socialism or Democratic socialism?"
 

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No, he eats at KFC mostly, tyvm. That or has the white house chef make meatloaf. Personally, I'd have steak everyday all-day if I had an on call chef.
Even his taste in steaks is awful, extra well-done with ketchup. For a supposedly very wealthy man, he eats like he makes minimum wage.

I just searched the whole internet and couldn't find a single one. Even Google search was like, "did you mean deaths caused by socialism or Democratic socialism?"
Funny, I turned up a ton of results. The tens of millions who died in slavery being just the tip of the iceberg. Not to mention all the recent deaths from people being forced to ration their insulin. Peak capitalism right there.
 
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Even his taste in steaks is awful, extra well-done with ketchup. For a supposedly very wealthy man, he eats like he makes minimum wage.
Unfair. Prejudice. Emotional. Personal. Why. :) (Baited. ;) )

If americans ever get that politics isn't about 'my figurehead is better than your figurehead' it will be a different world. Oh wait - that will never happen - because, education.

In other parts of the world we still have a sphere of the 'personal' (private) around politicians. What they do in their private lives (sexual partners, favourite food), doesnt matter to us at all. (Media doesnt write about it.)

It always mattered to the people that got reeled in by the yellowpress (Princess Margeret is pregnant!), but to no one else. And its better that way.

Because they are in a public role - we have whats called "hightened interest" in that persons life - which means, that if it concerns his/her political role - media can go further on reporting on private live, than with a normal person (black bars over the eye - not being able to write their full name), ...

But we don't have to drive this down to the point of "favorite food" and "taste in women". We balance it out right before that.

(Pathological liar is on the edge, because it would impact his performance on the job. How he eats his steaks does not.)
 
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If americans ever get that politics isn't about 'my figurehead is better than your figurehead' it will be a different world. Oh wait - that will never happen - because, education.

In other parts of the world we still have a sphere of the 'personal' (private) around politicians. What they do in their private lives (sexual partners, favourite food), doesnt matter to us at all.
Oh, I can talk about how shitty Trump's policies are all day long, but attempting to have a good faith conversation/debate with morvoran is a waste of time. Low-effort trolling and tribalism only invites the same in return.
 

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No, its fine. Im introducing concepts.

If we talk about eating habbits, or choice in sex partners, we are not talking politics anymore. Politics (in democracies) is 'talking about stuff' to keep a general informed consensus. But that 'private level' stuff usually is separate (by design).

If you have people making decisions by the color of a cap, or how a person eats his steak - thats not in 'the interest of this concept we call democracy'.

To bring the Winston Churchill example, he was an unpleasant, flawed man - he was a very good politician though. Thats also, why this separation is in there basically.

To 'kill of' people because of 'what they did in private' (think golden shower) is more a staple of dictatorships (and there people that have fallen from grace - only).

So its important to acknowledge, that some stuff is private not to step into the pitfalls of 'humans rather would discuss all day who is screwing who, and how deep and how obviously amoral' (the facebook 'we optimize by clickrate' conundrum.. ;) ) - because that actually halts public political discussion.
 
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