Hacking M3 DS Real: Build Quality

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Hey guys

So I just ordered myself two M3 DS Reals earlier and I'm concerned about build quality of the Flashcarts.

At the moment I own 3 R4s and 1 M3 Simply and coming in soon would be the M3 Real.

My concern is the quality of these flashcards have gone down. The missing plastic teeth that protect the chip are now gone ever since the new R4 Shell was introduced.

My M3 Simply has them, the old R4 has em but the new R4 with the new shell does not and it appears
that the M3 Real doesn't have them either along with the G6.

My concern could this affect the performance or the durability of the cards later in the future?

I take good care of my cards but sometimes I feel the build quality of them aren't going to last very long, accidents do happen and maybe one day I may drop it or step on it accidentally and it may easily break.

When I first took out the new R4 model out of it's casing one time the tiny part near the chip nearly broke off.
I don't know maybe its just me but I think the quality of the cards has gone down.

How does anyone else feel about it? You guys worried or not worried?
 

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I just added a M3 Real to me collection. I had a R4, was junk, as spring broke, now works randomly. The other cart is the G6 Real, and that has given me little trouble. I think I need to clean the contacts, which is much easier now that the "teeth" are gone
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At least on the G6 Real, the Wii Connect works, and that alone is worth the trouble.

So for my next cart, as I need three, I know it will not be a R4. Maybe another M3 Real if the one I have now holds up.
 

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The plastic teeth part is so that dirt and other random gunk doesn't get stuck between them.


So thats why they removed the plastic teeth? So nothing wouldn't get stuck between em?

Well.. If they removed the plastic teeth at the bottom of the Cart, it would connect to the DS better. As to solve the problem where the DS wouldn't recognize the Flashcart.

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I never knew that was the reason... I thought they were cutting on cost. I've never had any problems with my previous cards along with my original games.

The thing about the flashcards is that you can easily take them apart to clean...

If thats the reason why they no longer have teeth I guess its okay. though it feels a bit cheaper now that the teeth are gone.
 

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Hey guys

So I just ordered myself two M3 DS Reals earlier and I'm concerned about build quality of the Flashcarts.

At the moment I own 3 R4s and 1 M3 Simply and coming in soon would be the M3 Real.

My concern is the quality of these flashcards have gone down. The missing plastic teeth that protect the chip are now gone ever since the new R4 Shell was introduced.

My M3 Simply has them, the old R4 has em but the new R4 with the new shell does not and it appears
that the M3 Real doesn't have them either along with the G6.

My concern could this affect the performance or the durability of the cards later in the future?

I take good care of my cards but sometimes I feel the build quality of them aren't going to last very long, accidents do happen and maybe one day I may drop it or step on it accidentally and it may easily break.Â

When I first took out the new R4 model out of it's casing one time the tiny part near the chip nearly broke off.Â
I don't know maybe its just me but I think the quality of the cards has gone down.

How does anyone else feel about it? You guys worried or not worried?
why in the world do you need 5 flashcards?
 

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Hey guys

How does anyone else feel about it? You guys worried or not worried?

why in the world do you need 5 flashcards?


Who said I needed 5 flashcards? I only need one
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I just want more then one flashcard
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I like to test out cards and have the option of enjoying the benefits of one card over the other etc.
play multi player with friends. It's a lot easier when your friends have a copy of the game to play with thats where the extra cards come in handy.
If I lose one no biggie or if one breaks I have a few spares.

The cards aren't too pricy if you compare them to an actual price of an original game I don't see why not get at least two.

I usually buy games if I really like em. So getting a couple of flashcards doesn't mean much to me as I see it as purchasing another game.

Its like when a new game comes out you go buy that game cuz you want to play, same thing applies to the new flashcards that come out. I wanna try it out see what new features it has to offer.
 

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These missing "fingers/teeth" are a problem. I own an official NDS cleaning kit imported from Japan, but most people don't. ALWAYS wipe it before inserting to keep from depositing finger oils on the DS connector. Do the same with the microSD card.
 

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You can make a somewhat reasonable (inner) contact cleaner by cutting up a thicker plastic card (think old membership card or similar) and coating it with a lint free (something that will not leave behind bits) cloth. Getting the thickness just right helps, too.
 

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wow. I never, like NEVER take out my m3dss, unless i boughta new game. Most of t he times, to play the games i bought i would use my onyx ds instead. I only have one flashcart. I want another to play with my friends, and little brother (pwns at MPH) my dl'ed games.
 

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Hey guys

So I just ordered myself two M3 DS Reals earlier and I'm concerned about build quality of the Flashcarts.

At the moment I own 3 R4s and 1 M3 Simply and coming in soon would be the M3 Real.

My concern is the quality of these flashcards have gone down.  The missing plastic teeth that protect the chip are now gone ever since the new R4 Shell was introduced.

My M3 Simply has them, the old R4 has em but the new R4 with the new shell does not and it appears
that the M3 Real doesn't have them either along with the G6.

My concern could this affect the performance or the durability of the cards later in the future?

I take good care of my cards but sometimes I feel the build quality of them aren't going to last very long, accidents do happen and maybe one day I may drop it or step on it accidentally and it may easily break. 

When I first took out the new R4 model out of it's casing one time the tiny part near the chip nearly broke off. 
I don't know maybe its just me but I think the quality of the cards has gone down.

How does anyone else feel about it?  You guys worried or not worried?

why in the world do you need 5 flashcards?

I actually have 3 flashcarts, R4, G6 Real 16Gb, and CycloDS Evolution. I use the G6 myself, and my daughter was using the CycloDS Evolution, but it died on us recently so I need to RMA it thru TC. That brings up the build quality of the 1st batch of Evolutions, I dont like the fact the chip is so exposed, which might have caused it to die on us, the chip is to exposed, at least thats what i think. I heard the 2nd batch of CycloDSs is alot better. As for the G6 & R4, the build quality seems pretty good, alot better than the 1st batch of CycloDSs.

I think my next flashcart will be the M3DS Real.
 

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hmm, yes, i do think alot of flashcarts have sub standard build design or quality. All the new flashcarts that come out STILL have a chip sticking out underneath. Some have poor microsd slots too (AK RPG's isn't very easy to handle)

My supercard one has proven to be the best design to me, since i've never had connection problems with it, the microsd slot is easy to use, and it slides in and out fine. However it still has a crappy chip sticking out
 

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I have to say though that my R4 and M3 Simply both performe extremely well. I've had no problems so far. The beef about the missing teeth isn't much of a big deal.

But I've never had a card that had chips sticking out so I'm a bit worried. I purchased the M3 Real assuming that I'd be getting a quality product on par with performance and build quality to the M3 Simply and R4

I don't want to receive it and be let down due to lack of performance and build quality
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Has anyone so far had problems with quality issues with their cards that have the chip sticking out?
 

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The missing plastic teeth that protect the chip are now gone ever since the new R4 Shell was introduced.

My M3 Simply has them, the old R4 has em but the new R4 with the new shell does not and it appears

It never occured to you that this might be an improvement?

I'm sure it was done for a reason.
Any "fit" issues should have been solved by higher-quality manufacturing making a product more like an original DS card. It most certainly is not an improvement. Hand oils get on the contacts and get transferred into the DS. Even cleaning the card will not get the gunk out of your DS that it put there. Luckily, I have a DS cleaning kit, but I have been careful and haven't needed to use it yet. Even so, every time someone touches my DS units (coworkers, friends, family, etc), I find oils on the contacts and the DS unable to tell that the card is inserted without repeated reinsertions. This is DIRECTLY attributable to the contacts having no "teeth."
 
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