Hi there, I know this is my first post, and to be honest, I prefer to document my self first before posting, but Yesterday I ranned into this situation where I didn't understand what happened. Now, I'm going to ask here before I go wild and experiment other stuff. I made a boo boo, blah blah blah....... well, long story short, I restored my Wii with BootMiiv2 using my NAND.BIN backups that was on 3.1U Virgin and no hacks. Only things installed were DVDX, HombrewChannel1.0.3, and BootMii as Boot2 of course. So, here I am with 3.1U, I install IOS16-64-**-prod.wad; Install cIOS38 Rev13b (WAD Install). So I don't install BackupLoaders, cIOSCorp...... no method of backup loading. And I insert my Super Smash Bros. Brawl DVD5 rip NTSC...... and It worked, It loaded!!! So, I think......hmmm... what now.. I insert my MadWorld NTSC and It only shows the SystemUpdate, but doesn't run anything. So I'm trying to understand what exactly happened here. The SSBBDVD5NTSC was a rebuilt with Trucha Signer and Update files were not removed at all!!! My MadWorld is a DVD5 ripped with USB Loader 1.5 using HDD and re-ripped to PC with WBFS 3.3. So I don't understand what could of caused this, and if I can reproduce this, I can't simply patch my isos to run off cIOS without Backuploader nor CIOSCORP. What do you Guys think, or does anyone know about this already??? Thanks. And BTW, Great Site, more complete and it seems that people do reply to posts.