LGBTQIA+ in crisis

[Creamu]

Hello everyone,

LGBTQIA+ acceptance is a sociocultural/political project, and every change in that domain comes with certain stress factors on the populus by its very nature.

Now that we are approaching crisis (gas/food prices, (hyper)inflation, a more unstable global world order and economic depression), it is reasonable to assume, that the tolerance for projects of this nature will shrink substantially.

I have heard that the gender movement (LBTQIA+) and race movement (BLM) are not clearly distinct and are in many ways one global social revolution. I don't know much about this, but so much is clear from statements of both movements.

I have the feeling that with rising stressfactors, there will be compromises made from upwards on some issues. I would assume that the higher ups of the hierarchical structure of these movements will choose not to compromise on the race question but on the gender one.

Assuming this is true, how would the gender movement react in such a scenario? Are they in the position to defend their cause (if so how?) or are they simply going to bend?

 

[CoolMe]

Well, i blame EMF and 5G for that!

 

[Creamu]

Well, i blame EMF and 5G for that!

Why?

 

[Creamu]

No answer.

 

[Lacius]

The LGBT community is only "in crisis" in that right-wing politicians are actively attacking LGBT rights and vilifying LGBT people.

 

[AmandaRose]

Hello everyone,

LGBTQIA+ acceptance is a sociocultural/political project, and every change in that domain comes with certain stress factors on the populus by its very nature.

Now that we are approaching crisis (gas/food prices, (hyper)inflation, a more unstable global world order and economic depression), it is reasonable to assume, that the tolerance for projects of this nature will shrink substantially.

I have heard that the gender movement (LBTQIA+) and race movement (BLM) are not clearly distinct and are in many ways one global social revolution. I don't know much about this, but so much is clear from statements of both movements.

I have the feeling that with rising stressfactors, there will be compromises made from upwards on some issues. I would assume that the higher ups of the hierarchical structure of these movements will choose not to compromise on the race question but on the gender one.

Assuming this is true, how would the gender movement react in such a scenario? Are they in the position to defend their cause (if so how?) or are they simply going to bend?

The only crisis I see is that you have missed the G from the title of your little thread.
@Creamu. Other than that there is not fucking crisis going on so please go and worry about something else. Thank you.

 

[SG854]

If I turn into LGBTQIA+ will this give me substantial power against EMF?

 

[Lacius]

@Valwinz Calling drag queens "sexual predators" is an example of the vilification of LGBT people I was talking about earlier.

Also, read the Group Information:

A group for LGBTQIA+ tempers. Allies are also welcome. If you're homophobic/transphobic/etc etc, don't join. You're not welcome here.

 

[CoolMe]

The only crisis I see is that you have missed the G from the title of your little thread.

Well, that's because he doesn't approve of the "Gay" lifestyle.. And for the other letters, he doesn't know what they stand for..

@Creamu. Other than that there is not fucking crisis going on so please go and worry about something else. Thank you

Indeed! And how did he get into this group anyway?

 

[Lacius]

If I turn into LGBTQIA+ will this give me substantial power against EMF?

I've never met a member of the LGBTQ community who wasn't immune to EMF.

 

[AmandaRose]

Well, that's because he doesn't approve of the "gay" lifestyle.. And for the other letters, he doesn't know what they stand for..

Indeed! And how did he get into this group anyway?

Was thinking that about someone else who has suddenly popped up here.

 

[Creamu]

The LGBT community is only "in crisis" in that right-wing politicians are actively attacking LGBT rights and vilifying LGBT people.

If you are talking about the american right wing party I think you can relax. They are absolutely toothless. What I meant with crisis is the economic crisis as well the crisis of highest polarization histroically speaking. I believe the hegemonic power will have to manage the stressors it's going to put on the populus. Inflation and the lack of cultural coherancy will force them to compromise. I do believe this will hit the LGBTQIA+ community first. Are they able to defend themselves and hold ground?

The only crisis I see is that you have missed the G from the title of your little thread.

Okay I have corrected the title.

@Creamu. Other than that there is not fucking crisis going on so please go and worry about something else. Thank you.

What about the economic crisis?

No the crisis is sending sexual predators dragqueens to schools

Okay, how so?

If I turn into LGBTQIA+ will this give me substantial power against EMF?

No

 

[Lacius]

If you are talking about the american right wing party I think you can relax. They are absolutely toothless

They're doing active harm across the country. Like, fuck you for coming into a gay space and suggesting they aren't.

 

[Lacius]

@Valwinz Are you suggesting anyone with tits is a sexual predator?

 

[Creamu]

The authors’ conclusion is startling: No established democracy in recent history has been as deeply polarized as the U.S. “For the United States,” Jennifer McCoy, the lead author of the study and a political-science professor at Georgia State University, told me in an interview, “I am very pessimistic.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...crat-republican-partisan-polarization/629925/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-u-s...-way-back-from-the-brink-yascha-mounk.613693/

 

[AmandaRose]

@Creamu An economic crisis does not mean the LGBTQIA community is in crisis does it. They are totally separate things unconnected.

 

[Creamu]

@Creamu An economic crisis does not mean the LGBTQIA community is in crisis does it. They are totally separate things unconnected.

Okay, I'm not so opptimistic, I think with economic crisis tolerance will drastically decrease.

 

[Creamu]

Yascha Mounk writes:

We urgently need visionary leaders and institutional reforms that can lower the stakes of political competition. Imagining what a depolarization of American politics would look like is not too difficult. The only problem is that America’s political partisans may already hate one another too much to take the steps necessary to avoid catastrophe.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...crat-republican-partisan-polarization/629925/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-u-s...-way-back-from-the-brink-yascha-mounk.613693/

This pretty much, if I read correctly, means that they want to dial back on progessivism, at least certain actors in the government. (such as Yascha Mounk who isn't directly connected but he is an influential academic)

And I believe this does not mean only stagnation, but reverting to a certain extent. This may not happen at all, it depends what voices in the hegemonic power discourse will have their say. But judging by this article there are movements that want to manveur against the LGBTQIA+ movement in a way that transcends party lines.

 

[Creamu]

They're doing active harm across the country. Like, fuck you for coming into a gay space and suggesting they aren't.

I have no doubt that there is harm done across the country including by the right wing american party. My impression is that there are other even more concerning contra movements emerging. I hope that clears things up.

 

[The Catboy]

The fact that as Mod we can't boot people from groups is a real fucking crisis.