Suggestion "Legit" Bar

Discussion in 'Site Discussions & Suggestions' started by petethepug, May 30, 2016.

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  1. petethepug

    petethepug PUG

    May 2, 2016
    United States
    Okay I know the idea sounds really silly. But from previous scams on EBay, and other sites I thought of adding a "legit" bar on the forums.

    No not this bar;

    A progress bar going into the negatives, and positives.

    The useage of this is to collect previous complaints from users whom have had something shipped to them that was in bad condition/good. Without the author stating it is in bad condition, and selling it. Will lead to negative legitamacy, while informing users about the product, and having it sucessfully shipped to them in little/no damage in the process you get positive.

    This is to see, and understand who we can trust whom is selling products on the forums. Without the risk of having any potential money wasted, and have to deal with legal stuff if shipped incorrectly, and such. (It gives you the users reputation.)

    List of Negative Impacts on Rep:
    - Previous Scams to users
    - Negative Feedback from your Buyers (With Valid Proof)
    - Problems with previous shipments/mailing, to others
    - Selling illegal items/things agasint the rules on thread list
    - Selling things for an extremely over priced rate based on demand for item. (For ex; Selling an SD Card for $1000 that's 1GB of memory, and saying it's the best offer.)
    - Lying to moderators
    - Rule Breaks continuelessly

    List of Positive Impacts on Rep:
    - Recent successful transactions
    - Positive feedback from your buyers (with proof)
    - Sucessful shipments/mailings with little/no damage (unless the item is a bricked IPhone let's say. Having it damaged even more than what it was in its normal condition would be considered scamming.)
    - Good/Moderate price of device, or item you are selling
    - Good reputation with staff (little warning points)
    - Good reputation from buyers
    - Following all rules, and breaking maybe 1 - 2 every so three months (meaning if you break a rule 1 - 2 times you will not lose rep. But if you do, it after 3 you will lose rep.)

    How will this be managed?:

    In the case you disagree with this part. I thought the complaint system could be possible to completely remove. However there may be inaccurate warnings for legitmatcey...

    Pretty sure you had this question in mind ever since you clicked on this thread.

    This is where the very trusted mod's/admins will come in for their duty's, and find out what is wrong.

    In the event a scammer has scammed you. You are able to report them VIA PM to a TRUSTED Mod. Do not use the report button.

    Next fill out these details;
    - What is wrong
    - What is the current item condition (include pictures if possible.)
    - Do you have proof of the delivery (include screenshots of transactions, or providing where it was originally shipped.)
    - Who was the previous owner of the device, or item?
    - Please include the thread.
    - If possible please include conversation buying item. (This should be a PM, or on the thread.)

    (Note: Faking that someone scammed you, or slandering on them may be illegal, and may get you banned from the forums. Don't do it...)

    The mod will come to the conclusion eventually to ban the user for a few days if discovered it was a scam, if nothing was a scam however some "minior damages happend", then you will lose some Rep from a scale of -5 - -10 points.

    Point System:
    The point system will indicate if you should trade with certain users. -100 being the worst, 100 being the best, and -20 - 30 being in the neutral area (You are okay to trust.)

    That being said points can either be given from Mod's, or taken.

    An example would be delivering an item in good condition, with no damage. That would be a positive

    A negative would be having it broken in the package completely.

    I will go on with this more. But I don't have a lot of time. I will go over more later

    Exceptions are minior flaws that have to do with delivery. Sometimes a package could be easily broken by the people you asked to send the item to (or company.) Or things may have happend along the way. Maybe someone stole it during the delieverly.

    In the case this happens. Not a lot could be done to resolve it. However if you want to lose less reputation in the event this does happen, I would recommend you talk, get involved and try to address the issue.

    An example would be if a 3DS Broke on a delivery. Try to help them fix it, or if it has warranty, tell them to send it into warrenty. If that's not possible refund them that way you can raise reputation. The person who had then recieved that 3DS will have to return it from where it was from if they got a refund. Not doing so will result in either legal things, or a forum ban. And by a refund I mean a FULL refund.

    Another example would be putting a lot of wrapped packaging in the delieverly to prevent damage to the item shipped.

    Doing things related to this may lower/raise your reputation miniorly. Since you took the time to package it correctly, and send it. It shows you actually care about the person getting the device, or item.

    What do you guys think?
    Last edited by petethepug, May 30, 2016
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  2. Bubsy Bobcat

    Bubsy Bobcat sipp

    Jul 8, 2015
    It's neat I guess, but we already have a warning system which shows mods why you've been given those certain warnings.
  3. vayanui8

    vayanui8 GBAtemp Maniac

    Nov 11, 2013
    United States
    Seems overly complicated when the mods can just give you a warning
  4. Sliter

    Sliter GBAtemp Psycho!

    Dec 7, 2013
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    what a reputation, that people up or downvote the user and add a feedback for it hm
  5. petethepug

    petethepug PUG

    May 2, 2016
    United States
    The warning system, and legit bar will be two completely different things.

    The warning system shows how many times a user has been punished, while the legit bar shows how much trust buyers can put into you before actually paying for the item.

    Edit: now that I realize that the warning system is pretty much almost the same thing as this (Faceplam lol). It wouldn't contain much use unless the warnings, and legitmatcey were divided.

    How do you guys think this should be organized? I feel the current "warning a mod" system may be better, but I'm sure just adding a small warning might be good instead of having to completely ask someone questions. That way Mod's can quickly just add/decrease rep.

    @Sliter You will have to ask a Mod. You can't add reputation like a "like system". That way users have better control of their reputation.
    Last edited by petethepug, May 30, 2016
  6. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    If you scam someone or even mislead them heavily you probably are going to be ejected from the forums, to that end I am not sure what things you list will solve. If people care about "Problems with previous shipments/mailing, to others" then we have feedback forums for a reason.

    "Selling illegal items/things agasint the rules on thread list"
    As much as I would like people to read the rules I am not too concerned if someone in the past thought they might have a punt at selling a CD key they have sitting around.

    "Selling things for an extremely over priced rate based on demand for item."
    No way would I support that. Even if it could be determined (Owing to having to set up such things fairly often for people I actively try to keep a rough idea of what games, industrial equipment, mobile phones/tablets, computers, office type furniture/supplies and that sort of thing in my head for basically everywhere in the world but I would still find it impossible to keep track of everything -- ask any of the South American members what stuff goes for around there, same for middle east, same for India....) then I would still argue anybody can try to sell anything they have (that is allowed) for whatever price they so desire. It might get flagged as spam if you make loads of them but otherwise something is worth what someone else is willing to pay. Indeed I would probably go so far as to set about doing whatever needs doing for insults if people start throwing around words like scalper -- if people are willing to pay silly money for amiibos or something and you have a hook up then sell away.

    Basically you are attempting to solve problems that aren't there. The sections are moderated, and everybody is always on the lookout for those doing 100 not quite spam posts and posting in that section as soon as, because that is what you do but otherwise it is more of a perk/was easy enough to set up feature. Any extra work on it, much less sweeping changes like those you describe, would have to be worth the effort and again the trading forums are mainly there to dodge ebay fees and restrictions for items some might try to sell.
  7. petethepug

    petethepug PUG

    May 2, 2016
    United States
    Eh I tried lol,
    I'm not in the mood to argue agasint the current system (becuase that would be completely stupid.) And yes I also have only been on here for almost a month lol so kind of embarcing.

    Can a mod lock this shitty idea please? :rofl2:.
  8. Sicklyboy

    Sicklyboy ~I have crippling depression~

    Global Moderator
    Jul 15, 2009
    United States
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    Without implementing something else into the site, you could always consider using heatware -

    Register yourself an account, link your profile in your sig and in any threads in trading forums that you are participating in. Likewise you can always try to get others in there too.

    Maybe I can give more thought into this later, but FWIW the trading forum is kind of a "wild west" sort of thing. It's not officially endorsed by us nor do we hold any responsibility for trades gone wrong, so if someone gets burned, you're kind of on your own, unless we see it happening repeatedly, then we will look into it.
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