Legality of Musk's daily million dollar voter lottery put into question

[x65943]

One could make the argument that the second amendment was being practiced when those shooters were going after Trump.

Fight against tyranny etc.

Hard to call one man a militia

 

[supermist]

I was thinking moreso defending yourself from tyranny rather than a group in this instance

 

[titan_tim]

This all feels very illegal, but I can't imagine Musk would do something like this without consulting his army of lawyers for every way they can sneak out of accountability. I believe since it's a petition to vote, it skirts the law just enough.

That being said, as long as anyone is eligible to vote for who they want to, it should be a good thing, as higher voter turnout usually benefits the left.

 

[gudenau]

This is your opinion

I disagree personally and so do many people

But this is exactly what I mean when I say many Democrats do not support the second amendment

A lot of people can be wrong at once. :-)

It's an antiquated law from a more archaic time that's being heavily abused. I whole heartily think the founding fathers didn't want people to be murdering people so often and at such crazy ratios. The way this is written is pretty clear that it isn't currently applicable and everyone I've brought it up with in real life has agreed with me (yes anecdotal evidence so there's not a lot of weight), I believe if they knew the damage it would cause it would have been more clear about the militia part.

 

[x65943]

A lot of people can be wrong at once. :-)

It's an antiquated law from a more archaic time that's being heavily abused. I whole heartily think the founding fathers didn't want people to be murdering people so often and at such crazy ratios. The way this is written is pretty clear that it isn't currently applicable and everyone I've brought it up with in real life has agreed with me (yes anecdotal evidence so there's not a lot of weight), I believe if they knew the damage it would cause it would have been more clear about the militia part.

thankfully we don't have to go on anecdote because we have data

56% of americans want stricter rules, so majority want change

however, only 27% want to actually ban handguns, the least lethal gun, but most often used in crime - and that number has been falling for 60 years, meaning less people want to ban now than before

Most people think guns make homes safer

44% of homes have guns in them

The takeaway, people don't want to ban guns, they just want to make the rules a little stricter to keep them out of the hands of crazies

so your idea that most people think the 2nd amendment is antiquated appears to be more a product of the people you surround yourself with - who of course will be more likely to share your opinion

https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-continues-favor-stricter-gun-laws.aspx

 

[Taleweaver]

... And now Musk himself is puur into question, apparently having had multiple contacts with Putin.

 

[supermist]

https://apnews.com/article/elon-mus...donald-trump-5d918a79d4c35c9d1f9a46f1766bf6ff

Oops

 

[stl25]

https://apnews.com/article/elon-mus...rump-hearing-f8cbd514bf65e4656f47d09ecf164c3f

Oops

my favorite line from the whole article:

“Counsel, he’s not going to get in a rocket ship and land on the building,” Foglietta replied.

 

[Viri]

Oh shit, you can get paid to sign a petition? I need to get in on that!

Thanks for posting this, I just signed my self and my family members up! If he actually follows through, woot Switch 2 money!

Holy shit, I actually got a check for 100 dollars today from American PAC Petition. I didn't think they'd actually send them. lol

 

[GreenBanana]

The thing everyone forgets about the first amendment is that it doesn't mean people have to listen to you.

 

[Viri]

https://apnews.com/article/elon-mus...donald-trump-5d918a79d4c35c9d1f9a46f1766bf6ff

Oops

https://www.teslarati.com/pa-judge-drops-case-elon-musk-america-pac/
lmao

Also, I ended up getting 400 dollars from Elon Musk. Elon buying me a Switch 2!

 

[chrisrlink]

https://www.teslarati.com/pa-judge-drops-case-elon-musk-america-pac/
lmao

Also, I ended up getting 400 dollars from Elon Musk. Elon buying me a Switch 2!

god wish these fucking judges weren't so spineless when it came to politicians like seriously even Matt Gatez had no charges filed

 

[supermist]

https://www.teslarati.com/pa-judge-drops-case-elon-musk-america-pac/
lmao

Also, I ended up getting 400 dollars from Elon Musk. Elon buying me a Switch 2!

Prove it

 

[MrQQ]

https://www.teslarati.com/pa-judge-drops-case-elon-musk-america-pac/
lmao

Also, I ended up getting 400 dollars from Elon Musk. Elon buying me a Switch 2!

No you didnt

 

[Viri]

No you didnt

Yes I did. I got $100 for my self for signing, and I referred my parents and sister, which was $100 for each referral.

Post automatically merged: Dec 6, 2024

Prove it

I already cashed the check at my bank days ago. And why even doubt this? Tons of people in my state got money for signing this dumb petition. You can easily find out via Google, it's not like it's a secret. Some people even got it without signing the petition. lmao
https://www.fox43.com/article/money...heck/521-cdca013b-d33a-4460-8fc2-0191e0b27e2f

 

[MrQQ]

Yes I did. I got $100 for my self for signing, and I referred my parents and sister, which was $100 for each referral.

Post automatically merged: Dec 6, 2024

I already cashed the check at my bank days ago. And why even doubt this? Tons of people in my state got money for signing this dumb petition. You can easily find out via Google, it's not like it's a secret. Some people even got it without signing the petition. lmao
https://www.fox43.com/article/money...heck/521-cdca013b-d33a-4460-8fc2-0191e0b27e2f

oh sorry its fox news...must be true

 

[UnderJinx]

Tesla CEO Elon Musk loses bid to get $56 billion pay package reinstated​

Published Mon, Dec 2 20244:56 PM ESTUpdated Mon, Dec 2 20248:08 PM EST

Lora Kolodny@in/lorakolodny/
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Key Points

• Elon Musk lost his bid to have his $56 billion 2018 pay package reinstated.
• A Delaware judge upheld her January ruling in a case brought by shareholders that said the process leading to approval of the pay package was “deeply flawed.”
• In June, Tesla took a vote at its annual meeting, asking shareholders to “ratify” the 2018 pay plan, and leaned on that result to challenge the judge’s previous ruling.
• “Were the court to condone the practice of allowing defeated parties to create new facts for the purpose of revising judgments, lawsuits would become interminable,” Chancellor Kathaleen McCormick wrote in her opinion.

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk on Monday lost his bid to get his 2018 CEO pay package reinstated when a Delaware judge upheld her prior ruling that the compensation plan was improperly granted.
The package, worth about $56 billion, was the largest compensation plan in U.S. history for a public company executive. Tesla said in a post on social media platform X, which Musk owns, that it plans to appeal the ruling. Musk, in a separate X post, called the ruling “absolute corruption.”

In January, Chancellor Kathaleen McCormick voided the pay plan, ruling that Musk had individually “controlled Tesla” and dictated the terms of his compensation to a board that didn’t fairly negotiate. She called the process leading to approval of that pay plan “deeply flawed.”
Following the opinion, Tesla conducted a shareholder vote in June at its annual meeting in Austin, Texas, asking investors to “ratify” Musk’s 2018 CEO pay plan. Musk’s attorneys attempted to sway the judge to reverse her opinion after the trial, leaning on the results of that vote.
“Even if a stockholder vote could have a ratifying effect, it could not do so here,” McCormick wrote in her opinion Monday. “Were the court to condone the practice of allowing defeated parties to create new facts for the purpose of revising judgments, lawsuits would become interminable.”
As part of Monday’s opinion, McCormick approved a $345 million attorney fee award for the lawyers who successfully sued on behalf of Tesla shareholders in order to void Musk’s pay plan.
“We are pleased with Chancellor McCormick’s ruling, which declined Tesla’s invitation to inject continued uncertainty into Court proceedings and thank the Chancellor and her staff for their extraordinary hard work in overseeing this complex case,” attorneys from Bernstein, Litowitz, Berger & Grossmann, the firm representing the plaintiff, said in a statement.

Following the January decision, Musk lashed out at the Delaware court, posting on X, “Never incorporate your company in the state of Delaware.” Tesla then held a shareholder vote to reincorporate in Texas, and officially shifted its state of incorporation there.
Musk has also moved the state of incorporation for his defense contractor company SpaceX to Texas from Delaware.
Despite the legal setback, Musk has seen his net worth jump considerably in recent weeks. Excluding all of the options wrapped up in the pay package, Musk is more than $43 billion richer since Donald Trump’s election victory in November. Tesla shares have soared 42% in the four weeks since the election on optimism that Musk’s coziness with the incoming president will lead to policies favorable to his companies.
The Tesla stock Musk still holds is worth close to $150 billion based on Monday’s closing price. That alone, not including his SpaceX stake, would put him among the world’s wealthiest people. Equilar estimates that at today’s stock price Musk’s 2018 package would have risen to be worth $101.4 billion.
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