Just got my first smartphone and well, heh

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  1. the_randomizer
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    the_randomizer The Temp's official fox whisperer

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    My shitty flip-phone finally conked out after nearly four years of use :rofl2: So I went to my local retailer and traded it for in-store credit for a somewhat low-end Android smartphone. But the CPU is actually quite decent, a 1.4 GHz Dual-Core Qualcomm MSM8230 (I think, decent, emulators should work), micro SD support to 32 GB SDHC, which is plenty for my needs, esp. for pics, music, and uh, *cough* backups *cough*. Also a Snapdragon 400 GPU, which also, isn't the worst on the market AFAIK, so for Snes9x, RetroArch, maybe even ePSXe, speed shouldn't be much of an issue. Not the most high end or most powerful, but hey, it's helluva lot more powerful than my last phone ^_^

    So, this leads me to asking questions on what I can do to get the most out of this device, with the in-store trade of my old phone, I didn't have to pay, plus it was on sale, around 55 dollars. While I don't expect anything super miraculous, emulation shouldn't be much of an issue, correct? And with the fact it has Bluetooth support, could I use a BT controller instead of the touch screen for emulators? It's my first Android phone, and it came with Jellybean, I suppose I could go with Kitkat, but I hear that version has issues with loading files off of SD cards (like games, music, etc), is that true?

    The phone is a Z740G, once more, I didn't nor do I want to go high end for quite some time, just need some pointers and other tidbits to get me rolling :P
     


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    Play some mobile games like Monster strike, Puzzle and Dragons, etc. You've been missing out on these. Flip phones only play tetris and snake.
     
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    And emulators? They should work fine with specs like that, correct? Are those freely available on the Google Play store, those games you mentioned? Sorry for the numerous questions, I've a lot of catching up to do :P
     
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    Monster strike and Puzzle and Dragons are both free. I'll save you time and link you some games:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.gungho.padEN&hl=en
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.mixi.monsterstrikeUS
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mistwalkercorp.guardians

    As for emulators, I don't think the retro ones require that much specs. SNES, GBA, ETC can run fine on your phone. PSP and Gamecube are different.
     
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    that cpu will handle the emulators fine
    looking at the specs it seems they cheaped out on the screen (4" @ 480x800) and ram (1GB) and internal storage (4GB) though lucky there is a microsd slot at least
     
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    Ah, well, good to know, and thanks for the links ^_^


    Yeah, they did, but I didn't expect miracles for $50 (after the discount from the trade-in and the store sale), but emulators running fine is a big plus. The screen does look pretty nice nonetheless, so not a deal-breaker :P And recommended apps? I know that Android doesn't like installing apps on external flash (i.e SDHC or Micro SD), but other files, like ROMs, music, etc would still run fine off of those, correct? And, it seems to have Bluetooth, would I be able to sync a BT controller to it? I only ask as I've never played an emulator on a touchscreen before. Once again, I'm still quite new to Android ;) The internal storage is pretty bad, and it is expandable via micro SD, but what can I use that for if apps won't install on there?
     
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    you can keep roms on the external storage as well as music, videos, documents, pics, ect... will all be able to read fine
    I use the .emu apps for emulation https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Robert Broglia you can get them for "free" if you know where to look
    bluetooth controllers will work fine assuming its not a piece of junk

    as far as kitkat, im not seeing an official upgrade so you might be stuck on jellybean
    the problem is there doesnt seem to be much a community for this device, so finding rooting methods, customs roms, kernel mods, ect... will be significantly difficult

    the majority of my recommend apps require root access unfortunately
     
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    I believe I may have seen a few videos, but that can be risky and will void the warranty I'm sure, so far, I've seen http://hexamob.com/devices/devices-...te-z740g-with-android-version-4-x-jelly-bean/ how trustworthy it is, well, yeah, I fear lest I screw something up, once again, I don't expect to do miracles (that would cost way more than I want to spend), so, for now, well, anything's better than the old phone I had.

     
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    Rooting really isn't that risky. It's what you can do while rooted that can screw up your phone. As for warranty, if the device turns out to have some defect unrooting is quite simple & leave very little traces behind & even those can be removed by a factory reset if your need the extra insurance.

    For rooting you can try the SRS method in your link or try Framaroot. Worst case scenario is that they will do nothing, so don't be afraid of giving it a try.

    In case you decide to go ahead & root the main app that I would recommend is Link2Sd. It will allow you to install apps on your microsd which will save you from the pain of only being able to install 10 apps at a time.
     
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    Rooting isn't dangerous for most phones, but do be wary: my old phone worked great until I rooted it. Only a couple weeks later, it got stuck in a bootloop and became a fantastic brick that absolutely refused all potential fixes, and no, I didn't do anything but install a couple of harmless apps that needed root access. I know my situation isn't common, but do pay attention if there are any warnings regarding rooting and your phone. They aren't to be taken lightly. All things considered, the average user doesn't really need to root anyways. Emulators work fine without rooting, games work fine without rooting, the majority of misc apps work fine without rooting, etc. If you want to flash a custom ROM, root away. Otherwise I'd just pass on it and enjoy your phone as is.
     
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    Yeah, I'll keep messing around with it (getting use to it, try out emulators and so on, which this device seems to be quite capable or running quite well), also it has VLC player, er, well, I got from the Play Store; solid app right there :P ;)


    Right, but the option's always there, one advantage I've heard of is uninstalling bloatware to free up the internal space, but I really don't need all that much, esp. if I can buy a cheap 16 or 32 GB micro SDHC card to store pics or music or well, games for emulators *ahem*. Aside from that, I have no intent on rooting it, for now. Sure, it isn't on Kitkat, but for my purposes, it's more than sufficient. Also, since it has Bluetooth, that means I could get a BT controller for that and use it for emulators, correct? I've honestly never used an emulator for a touchscreen, so, I've no idea on how comfortable or precise those controls are.
     
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    yes you can use a bluetooth controller, though be wary that once in a while, cheap bluetooth things dont work wonders with one another.

    as for playing on touch screen, dont bother trying anything beyond rpgs and stuff like fire emblem and advance wars. things where precision and perfect timing aren't important are your friends.
    also dont bother with 3d and stuff.

    really, with a controller and everything, why not just play on a pc?
     
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    Um, portability, and because I want one? What's wrong with getting a BT controller for on the go or if I visit a parent's house? Besides, someone linked this to me http://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-A-MOG...US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item4d245012d8 Cheaper than getting from Best Buy :rofl: I dunno, because I'm not always at my PC, and well, I like portability :P



    Fair enough, I'll check it out :D
     
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    Firstly, grab an app off the store to check what the refresh rate of your phone is. If it isn't 60hz your gonna have to go with retroarch for your emulation needs and that can sync to refresh (which will result is slightly slower or faster emulation depending on the refresh rate, but at least it will be stutter free).

    If it is 60hz, then go with the .Emu series (just the like S7800!) you wont go wrong with them.

    GooglePlay - FPS Meter
     
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    FPS meter? I see FPS Test on the Play Store..... Running test now, not sure how long it takes. I do have RetroArch installed.
     
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    as i said, be wary that the moga controller does not work with every phone. check if it does with yours if you can first.
     
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    What the....? That's a dead link, BTW. What were you trying to link?

    Edit: Ninja'd. Gotcha. Would that tell me for sure?

    Edit: Damn, it's not perfectly 60 fps.


    Yeah, I know, but there's no way to know without getting one first.
     
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    Yes it will be pretty accurate. What is it coming back with?

    If its something like 59.8-60.2 or something, then it will be fine