Homebrew Just a General Discusssion

[Gaming796]

So what I say is, Nintendo's Apps (Like eShop) have full control over Arm9 and Arm11 right? 'Cause without that, the eShop would never be able to install apps to the NAND. So, if anyone can find out how the apps do that or at least how the eShop does, then it would be possible for the Homebrew Launcher to access the NAND, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, and this is just my opinion, not any fact and this may be a possibility...

Anyways, I hope nobody spams on this thread at least.....

 

[hacksn5s4]

So what I say is, Nintendo's Apps (Like eShop) have full control over Arm9 and Arm11 right? 'Cause without that, the eShop would never be able to install apps to the NAND. So, if anyone can find out how the apps do that or at least how the eShop does, then it would be possible for the Homebrew Launcher to access the NAND, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, and this is just my opinion, not any fact and this may be a possibility...

Anyways, I hope nobody spams on this thread at least.....

well maybe you could hack the eshop with hans but idk if it would work probs not

 

[solress]

We already can, it's called freeshop

 

[Gaming796]

well maybe you could hack the eshop with hans but idk if it would work probs not

No. eShop is totally patched. HANS can't access it on FW >10.4. I'm saying if someone could find how the eShop works so that it can be implemented on 11.0 FW for installing CIAs. So we need to know how the eshop interacts with 11.0 Arm9 & Arm11.

 

[hacksn5s4]

No. eShop is totally patched. HANS can't access it on FW >10.4. I'm talking if someone could find how the eShop works so that it can be implemented on 11.0 FW for installing CIAs. So we need to know how the eshop interacts with 11.0 Arm9 & Arm11.

well you don't have control over the kernel though with out an exploit the 3ds only lets certain apps like the eshop have that access

 

[Gaming796]

well you don't have control over the kernel though with out an exploit the 3ds only lets certain apps like the eshop have that access

Yeah. So why not find how the eshop does it and use it to our advantage?

 

[solress]

Yeah. So why not find how the eshop does it and use it to our advantage?

Because we already know how it does it

 

[Gaming796]

Then why not use it to allow HBL & other HB Apps so that CIAs can be installed?

 

[solress]

Then why not use it to allow HBL & other HB Apps so that CIAs can be installed?

Because we don't have the same access as eshop

 

[Gaming796]

Like what access?

 

[solress]

Like what access?

ARM9/11 access

 

[hacksn5s4]

ARM9/11 access

idk about this but if hans worked with the eshop maybe you could hack it to trigger a downgrader and the 3ds thinks its the eshop but theres also process 9

 

[Gaming796]

Like what access?

Yeah. If eShop has it, then it must be having it by doin' something. If HBL can also do the same thing, then we can potenially install CIAs

 

[solress]

Yeah. If eShop has it, then it must be having it by doin' something. If HBL can also do the same thing, then we can potenially install CIAs

problem is is that those are permissions given by the hardware, there's no way to create an unofficial software with those same permissions

 

[Gaming796]

problem is is that those are permissions given by the hardware, there's no way to create an unofficial software with those same permissions

Hardware in the sense?

 

[solress]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/651/474/3a7.jpg

 

[Gaming796]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/651/474/3a7.jpg

WTF is that?

 

[hacksn5s4]

problem is is that those are permissions given by the hardware, there's no way to create an unofficial software with those same permissions

well if hans worked with the eshop you could inject some thing into it and then it may have those permissons

 

[osaka35]

Like what access?

As a general rule of thumb, if you're dealing with a server, it's going to be harder to do anything like you're thinking. Tricking your 3ds alone to install stuff it shouldn't is one thing, tricking the nintendo servers is a completely different thing.

 

[Gaming796]

well if hans worked with the eshop you could inject some thing into it and then it may have those permissons

Yeah. Thing is HANS doesn't work with the eShop on 11.0. If Smea releases its source code, then maybe it can be edited to do that stuff.

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As a general rule of thumb, if you're dealing with a server, it's going to be harder to do anything like you're thinking. Tricking your 3ds alone to install stuff it shouldn't is one thing, tricking the nintendo servers is a completely different thing.

I think you're right. But again, what if we make a clone server?