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Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by TrolleyDave, Feb 24, 2011.
News story taken from here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12564865
that would be the most fucked up thing ever
I know mate. This could end up having serious repercussions in the world of journalism and is a blatant attack on proper free speech. If he does end up being extradited to the US and executed (or even just jailed long term) journalists will be too afraid to print the truth where the US is concerned. It's all getting a bit Orwellian.
Executing him would turn him into a martyr, and the U.S. is smart enough to know not to do that.
The fact that they want to prosecute for telling the truth doesn't already make him a kind of martyr? The US gov't is looking to make an example of him to deter future whistleblower journo's so at the moment I wouldn't put alot past them.
I'm more interested to know what will happen to the U.S. solider who stole the information in the first place (I guess he'll be tried for treason and then executed). Assange's punishment should not be as severe as his, and Assange isn't even an American unlike the soldier. But then again, this would be a case of killing the messenger.
And there's Sarah Palin and her crowd of morans cheering for the death of this guy.
She makes my head hurt every time I see her speak.
I totally agree. I don't mean to defend his actions if he indeed assaulted those women. I don't like that "evidence from a trial would be heard in private but the arguments would be made in public." A true fair trail should allow the public to be present to detect bias, or political agendas.
This is madness.
So much for the country of freedom of speech
Semi related... As much as I hate seeing ads when logged in, the ad on this page is for the National Guard, and that just made me lol.
The US will try to pluck Assange as soon as he arrives in Sweden.
I'm not so sure. I think they'll allow the trial to go ahead just to give it a kind of air of authenticity. If they just pluck him up straight away then even those staunch defenders of the US claiming he's not being stitched up will have to do a double take.
Not to come off as fanatical, but the way I see it, it's kind of written in the stars, so to speak. I'm no Bible thumper, but I do believe this world must go through great change. Assange as a martyr not only doesn't surprise me, but the type of free speech he and his organization have been exercising is counter to the "powers that be." It was never going to last in this world. The sorts of things WikiLeaks revealed showed American military's behavior in Iraq to be startlingly similar to that of the Nazi regime.
It's not getting Orwellian, it has been. Big Brother just doesn't relish us taking notice to that fact.
This whole farce has just been further undermining the basic rights that citizens once had.
Worst part is, I don't see it ending (or slowing down, for that matter) any time soon.
EDIT: this vid should point out exactly how retarded Sarah Palin and her followers are [youtube]zbyFeFhUTmI[/youtube]
It's very smart to r@pe people when you already are fighting to stay out of jail.
Nice job, Julian.
"I'm sorry I thought this was America"
Hum... the URL to this won't work due to the filter, but if you look at the URL you can figure it out.
Those people are so misinformed.
Faux News told them that "ObamaCare" was FORCING them to have health care or go to jail. Faux News said that Obama was creating "Death Panels" and killing old people rather than treating them. And they lapped it up, screaming Socialism and Communism and Fascism and yet know nothing of what the word means. They hear the talking heads on Faux News say it, then parrot it back as fact. When confronted on the meaning of the words (and often times their stances) they try to wiggle out or spout off half-assed redirects of answers, what do you hate specifically about the Obama administration? "the socialist/communist/fascist agenda", or call you a socialist/communist/fascist/liberal.
And it's not just the 'regular' people either (it seems many forget that the government is supposed to work for US, not itself), it's the ones spouting the rhetoric and running for office. Sarah Palin was asked what newspapers she read to show or prove that Alaska isn't 'cut off' from the rest of the United States, stuttered for a bit then said "all of them". She reads all of the papers? Really? Someone too dumb to come up with a lie and name ONE COMMON WIDESPREAD NEWSPAPER expects us to believe she reads ALL the news papers? Even if she means 'All the newspapers in Alaska' (which would prove the point of the question), that's a tough one to swallow.
And Palin isn't the worst of the bunch either, Michele Bachmann is out there trying to rewrite our history. Saying that our nation was found on ethnic diversity we've always treated everyone the same and everyone had freedom because that's what the founding fathers fought for.
They scream about the "Redistribution of Wealth", but didn't say a peep about Bush bled this country dry by starting two wars and gave No Bid Contracts to to companies that had ties to his father and Vice President.
They scream about the illegals being terrorists and gangsters and drug dealers in one breath, then say they're taking jobs from Americans. Yet if they're drug pushing gangsters or terrorists, why are they working their asses off doing the shit jobs Americans don't want to do for a fraction of what Americans expect?
You must be kidding