1. Deleted_171835

    OP Deleted_171835 Newbie

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    <p align=" " class="none">There have been a lot of topics around several forums about Pokémon Black and White. This thread is for discussion about the game. I will add pre-release pics, information and videos when necessary.

    Pokémon Black and White is the fifth generation Pokémon game. It will have an increased use of 3D computer graphics. The only known new Pokémon at this point, are Zorua and Zoroark. The region's name is Isshu (イッシュ) and is located far away from other Pokémon regions. Zoroark's ability to take on the appearance of another Pokémon is called 'Illusion' (イリュージョン). The main characters are much older than in any other Pokémon game. The game will be released on the Nintendo DS. It has a Fall 2010 release in Japan and a Spring 2011 release in North America and Europe.</p>

    <div align="center"><b>Pre-Release Pics</b>
    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><u>Official Site Images: April 15th 2010</u><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
    <img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/clear%20pokemon%20black%20and%20white%20screenshots.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>
    <div align="center"><b>Video</b>
    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><u>Pokémon Sunday: April 17th, 2010</u><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

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    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><u>Starters Revealed + Battle Footage</u><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

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    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><u>Pokémon Sunday - June 19th</u><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

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    Thanks Pong20302000...
    <div align="center"><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><u>Region Map</u><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></div>
    <div align="center"><a href="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2207/1281134564720.jpg" title="Click to view full size" target="_blank"><img src="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2207/1281134564720.jpg" alt="User posted image" height="100" border="0" /></a></div>

    <div align="center"><b>New Pokémon</b>
    Zorua and Zoroark
    <img src="http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100219052838/nintendo/en/images/4/4b/Zorua_game.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100219052628/nintendo/en/images/8/82/Zoroark_game.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Starters: Tsutaaja (ツタージャ), Pokabu (ポカブ), and Mijumaru (ミジュマル) in order from left to right
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/x0zfQ.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Main Legendaries: Reshiram (レシラム) and Zekrom (ゼクロム)
    <img src="http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/reshiram-zekrom.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>

    <div align="center">Legendary Pokémon Biktuni
    <img src="http://i26.tinypic.com/5pocp4.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>

    <div align="center">Grass Monkey Pokémon Yanappu
    <img src="http://i33.tinypic.com/23u760g.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    <div align="center"><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Box Art<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></div>
    <div align="center"><img src="http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/pokemon-black-white-boxart-reshiram-zekron.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>
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    [title:Dream World - Guide by nekoakuma]
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    This is just a collection of information from other threads and (sort of) sorted out.

    Pokemon Global Link, DreamWorld and HighLink will be noted as PGL, DW, HL respecitively.

    Connecting to the DreamWorld
    -PGL account synced to your game. [There are guides on this. If anyone has a link for it that'd be helpful]
    -Sleeping Pokemon [Done via C-Gear in game]
    -National Dex [Unconfirmed. Some people had problems with DW. If you haven't beaten E4 for the first time, try get on DW and post what happens]

    With all that done go to the PGL website and login.
    From there, you can see a Blue Pokeball. Click that to go to the DW.
    You will meet Professor Makomo [i think it was] who will go through the tutorial and explain features for you.
    After reading or skipping the tutorial you are free to go through the DW as you please.

    Can't Connect to DW/Troubleshooting
    If you can read Japanese, here's a better version <a href="http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2010/10/at101007_01.html" target="_blank">http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2010/10/at101007_01.html</a>

    A. If you see the pop-up in the first picture in the link it's saying that the servers are busy and you are unable to connect at the moment. The LEFT button closes the dialogue, the RIGHT button wakes up your Pokemon.

    B. Very rarely you may get an unexpected error. Try relogging into your account (actually type ID and password) or switch browsers.

    C. The bottom right of the PGL site has a link to a DW Server Status. Check it if you can't connect.
    O = Good
    ^ = Busy
    X = Full

    Important Information
    -You may only put a pokemon to sleep ONCE per day.
    -You have a maximum of 1 hour in the DW each day. You cannot split the hour into 30mins and 30mins.
    -You can only bring back one Pokemon a day from DW.
    -Make sure you properly exit the DW and don't just close the browser as some data may not be saved.

    When your 1 hour is up you will be given a message and it has 3 options (cf: 3rd last picture in link above)
    From L->R:
    "Wake Pokemon Up and End"
    "End without waking up"

    When you finish the DW you will be given a message as to when you can connect next. [ie; 24 hours later.]

    Interacting with the DW

    Interacting with the DW is done by clicking various items or arrows that appear on screen. Your sleeping pokemon will appear in the DW and you can click on it (and other pokemon you meet) for more information.


    -Starting Area.
    -Welcome Mat may be changed.
    -Click on the door to go inside your house.

    Inside House
    The inside of your house is pretty bare at the start.
    -Book on the table is the Shop Catalogue to purchase new items for your house. Payment is made in berries.
    -The FRIEND BOARD is important. Friends you make in the DW will show on this board, and can then be marked so that they will appear in HL for you to catch.
    -Treasure Chest : Allows you to send berries/items to your game.

    Berry Stand (Right from house I think)
    You can place Berries here for friends to take/trade. PGL/DW friends are those that you have in your PalPad.

    Planting Fields (Left from house)
    Easy enough to work. Plant berries and water them.

    Friend Area (I'm not sure where this is, but it should be there somewhere)
    You can visit your friends houses.

    Rainbow Path
    This leads to Dream Isle where you can befriend pokemon and find more berries.

    Dream Isle
    You may find pokemon in different areas throughout the DW.
    If you see a shaking tree or bush click on it to make the pokemon appear.
    If you find a shiny patch, click on it to get a berry or an item.

    Befriending Pokemon
    When you encounter Pokemon in the DW they will want to play a game with you. (more on that below)
    The games seem similar to that in PokePark Wii.
    You have to do good in the games to be friends with the pokemon.

    Dream Tree
    In the top left corner will be a steps remaining counter. This shows how many more "steps" it takes to get to the Dream Tree.

    -At the Dream Tree you can also see other trainers Pokemons who are also in the DW at the moment.
    -The Dream Tree is important as this is where you can select your pokemon to go to HL. You must offer up a berry before you can choose.
    -Only Pokemon you are friends with may be chosen to go along.
    -NOTE: Once you have selected Pokemon to go with you, you will not be able to go to the Dream Isle again until it has been caught in HL.

    Catching DW Pokemon
    In BW, sync your game by going to Wifi -> Sync and wake up your pokemon.
    Then proceed to go to Wireless-> HighLink and go to the Forest north of where you start.
    Once there you will see the overworld sprites (from HGSS) of the Pokemon you chose.
    Talk to hit and press Yes to start a 'battle' sequence.
    Open your bag and select the DreamBall to catch it.
    Minigames in DW

    There are various minigames to be played in the DW to befriend Pokemon. As the DW has just opened there are surely other minigames to occur. If you have one not posted here, or have more information on some games, please post them using the following format.

    Name: (Japanese Name if you know it, or a rough english name so we know what it is)
    Type: One or two words stating what type of game it is.
    Description: Describe the game.
    Pokemon: Pokemon that appear in the game. *optional*
    Other Information: Other info that might be important.

    Name: Pelippers Air Race
    Type: Race
    Description: Pelipper flies right to left across the screen. You have to dodge obstacles and collect speed boosts to achieve a high score.
    Pokemon: PokPelipper
    Controls: Use the mouse to go up/down/forward/back. [If you've ever played that helicopter flash game where you can't touch the the top and bottom, it's like that.]
    Collect type-marks that are your own type for speed boosts. If you touch ones that you are weak to, you slow down.
    Other Information:
    -Clouds slow you down.
    -Negative-Type Marks (electric) decrease your speed and/or points.
    -Positive-Type Marks (water) increase your speed and/or points.

    Name: Missing [Pokemon]
    Type: Search
    Description: You're shown a Pokemon that you must within a certain time limit.
    Pokemon: Chatot, Hootoot, Fearow, Cleffa [there's heaps more for this]
    Controls: Use the arrow keys on-screen to navigate to different areas and try finding the pokemon.
    Click on shaking bushes to see if they are there. Shiny patches hold berries. The game ends when you find the asked for Pokemon.
    Other Information:
    -Time limit of 90 seconds.
    -You have a map that becomes revealed as you go through the areas.
    -Berry locations are marked with a red dot.
    -Can occur on the ground or in the air. (Aesthetic and pokemon appearance changes only.)

    Name: Wailord's Balls (lol. yes. I haven't played this yet, this is just what I can scrape about it)
    Type: Juggling {?}
    Description: You control Wailord who has to keep the Pokemon in the air so they can collect colour-coded balls that match their colouration..
    Pokemon: Wailord, Pikachu, Meowth, Piplup, Buizel
    Controls: ??? [I'm assuming it's just mouse movement?]
    Other Information: If the Pokemon falls into the water they will be out of play for a while, which severely restricts your point-scoring ability.

    Other Info That I Forgot But Just Remembered/Found
    -No clock-cheat/timetravel when using the PGL/DW. It also affects Black City/White Forest apparently.
    -After visiting DW once, the Interior Designer in Shippou City will offer to make furniture for your DW house. [House east of the Pokemon Centre

    Trainer Card Colour/Stars Information:
    <a href="http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/989552-pokemon-black-version/56732415" target="_blank">http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/989552-poke...ersion/56732415</a>

    <img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/cynthia%20in%20isshu%20in%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/ferris%20wheel%20in%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/investigator%20looker%20in%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/n%20telling%20you%20to%20search%20for%20reshiram%20-%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/pic%20of%20badges.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/picture%20of%20the%20map.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/pokerus%20in%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/quest%20to%20find%20seven%20sages%20-%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/reshiram%20stats%20-%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/reshiram,%20zekrom%20and%20trainer%20n%20in%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/seabed%20ruins%20-%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/zekrom%20-%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/zekrom%20stats%20-%20black%20and%20white.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    <img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/first%20part%20of%20isshu%20dex%20-%20black%20and%20white.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/second%20part%20of%20isshu%20dex%20-%20black%20and%20white.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/third%20part%20of%20isshu%20dex%20-%20black%20and%20white.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/last%20part%20of%20isshu%20dex%20-%20black%20and%20white.PNG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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    <div align="center"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/yMLUW.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>

    <div align="center"><b><!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Stone Locations<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></div>
    <!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Stones:</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
    <b>Water Stone</b> - Surf to the lighthouse in the 5th gym's city (the ground one).
    <b>Dusk Stone</b> - There's a Dusk Stone in the Cave where you encounter Kibagos and the blue one of this legendary Fighting-Dogs.
    The cave is on Route 6, near to this electric cave. You need to go to the house on Route 6 and then behind it right to a river. Surf it along past the stones and you will find this cave. But one of your Pokemon needs to know Flash (TM 70).
    <b>Fire Stone</b> - Go to the very right of the city (Hiun City), where the gateway to the bridge is, then go down the stairs and there's a scientist at the dock. Talk to him, and he lets you choose one of three stones.
    The Fire Stone is the second option. <u>Another Method</u> - In the desert, there is a fire stone.
    <b>Leaf Stone</b> -
    <b>Moon Stone</b> - You get the Moon Stone from Aloe after helping get the head back.
    <b>Hard Stone</b> - Upstairs in Shaga's house, a football player gives you a Hard Stone.
    <b>Thunder Stone</b> - Go to the All Nine Shopping Mall on Route 9. An NPC on the top floor also gives you a Thunder Stone for free.

    <div align="center"><b><!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Exp Share<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></div>
    It's in Hiun City on the main street, go to floor 55 and beat the old lady there.
    <div align="center"><b><!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Bottom Screen Menu/Battle Screen<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></div>
    <div align="center"><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/black%20and%20white%20bottom%20screen%20menu.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><img src="http://pix.gbatemp.net/171835/black%20and%20white%20battle%20screen.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>
    <hr />
    <div align="center"><b><!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Valid and Invalid on Random Wifi <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></div>
    <div align="center"><u>Credit to Bond697</u></div><ul><div align="center"></li><li>3rd and 4th Generation tutor moves, TM's, and egg moves work.</li><li>Pokéwalker exclusive moves work</li><li>The game will accept almost any PID</li><li>If you're going to edit IVs, change the Pokémon from a Generation 5 PID to a method 1 PID and do it that way. Catching a Pokémon and immediately changing its IVs will disqualify it.</li><li>Random WiFi doesn't care about catch location
    </div></li></ul><div align="center"><b>Pokémon names</div></b><ul><div align="center"></li><li>English translation DOES work, but Pokémon named from it (i.e. caught in it) will not right away. Over 5 characters ARE allowed, but they must be done using Japanese-English letters. This leaves a few options.</li><li>catch a Pokémon in the translated game, edit it properly, and rename it with the name rater. that will fix it.</li><li>In Pokégen use the character map and plug in letters 1 by 1. This works and I've gone up to 8 letters with no trouble battling on wifi</li><li>Use the Unicode Japanese-English letter map and write in the characters yourself. get the Unicode map here: <a href="http://www.unicodemap.org/range/87/Halfwid...ullwidth_Forms/" target="_blank">http://www.unicodemap.org/range/87/Halfwid...ullwidth_Forms/</a></li><li>Pokégen b15 has a working character map and is better than Pokésav in every way. get it here: <a href="http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthrea...and-information" target="_blank">http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthrea...and-information</a></div></li></ul><div align="center"><b><!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->FAQ<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></div>

    <b>Q </b>- When will this game be released?
    <b>A</b> - The game was released in September, 18th of 2010 for the Japanese region. In the NA and EU regions it's released in Spring 2011.

    <b>Q</b> - How many new Pokémon are in this game?
    <b>A</b> - There are 155 new Pokémon in this game.

    <b>Q</b> - What is the Professor's name?
    <b>A</b> - Professor Araragi. For the first time in a Pokémon game, it is a female.

    <b>Q</b> - What are the game version mascots called?
    <b>A</b> - Reshiram (レシラム, Reshiramu) for Pokémon Black and Zekrom (ゼクロム, Zekuromu) for Pokémon White.

    <b>Q</b> - What aesthetic differences have been made?
    <b>A</b> - Speech balloons appear over people's heads as you pass by. The Pokémon sprites in battle are fully animated and the camera changes focus highlighting different parts of the battle.

    <b>Q</b> - What is the new region called? Any details about it?
    <b>A</b> - The new region is called Isshu (イッシュ地方, Isshu-chihō). The region is shown to be more technologically advanced because of the vehicles present in videos and pics. Like other regions, a cave and a forest are present. The real world area it is based on is New York in the United States.

    <b>Q</b> - What are the starter Pokémon?
    <b>A</b> - Tsutarja is the grass starter Pokémon and resembles a reptile. Pokabu is the Fire starter Pokémon and resembles a pig. Mijumaru is the Water starter Pokémon and resembles a sea otter.

    <b>Q</b> - Is Pokémon Black/White compatible with HeartGold/SoulSilver?
    <b>A</b> - Yes. Certain aspects of the game are compatible with all Generation IV games.

    <b>Q</b> - Can I have a rom and the patch?
    <b>A</b> - Search the web, d00d.
    <img src="http://gbatemp.net/style_images/1/folder_post_icons/icon11.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /> <a href="http://www.pokemon.co.jp/bw/index.html" target="_blank">‘Pokémon Black’ and ‘White’ Japanese Site</a>
    <img src="http://gbatemp.net/style_images/1/folder_post_icons/icon11.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /> <a href="http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/" target="_blank">‘Pokémon Black’ and ‘White’ NA Site</a>
    <img src="http://gbatemp.net/style_images/1/folder_post_icons/icon11.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /> <a href="http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=256628&st=0&start=0" target="_blank">‘Pokémon Black’ and ‘White’ English Patch</a>
  2. Wasmachinemann

    Wasmachinemann GBAtemp Regular

    Apr 6, 2010
    A Few Months Later: HOLY S*TH TEH NEW GAMEZ ARE OUT W00T
    No honestly, Your thread is gonna be spammed with n00b's and script kiddies, Duh.
    Just my opinon, your thread is nice btw
  3. giratina16

    giratina16 Born This Way

    Apr 10, 2010
    I'm quite excited these games. I think then new 3D game play might get slightly annoying though.
  4. matt32724

    matt32724 Member

    Feb 17, 2010
    United States
    Woah, man, that city view is awesome!

    What if they released this for the 3DS? That would be SWEET!
  5. prowler

    prowler Sony

    Jul 14, 2009
  6. Sanderino

    Sanderino I guess you only know what you got 'till it's gone

    Sep 10, 2008
    uh.. Script kiddies?

    Yeah the thread has a nice lay-out, it's good you made one, SoulSnatcher
  7. ` regret .

    ` regret . GBAtemp Regular

    Dec 12, 2009
    If realeased on the 3DS it wouldn't work on DS(L)(i)(XL) would it?
  8. giratina16

    giratina16 Born This Way

    Apr 10, 2010
    No it wouldn't work, but it's being released on the normal DS.
  9. rockstar99


    Dec 3, 2008
  10. Deleted_171835

    OP Deleted_171835 Newbie

    Are you asian by any chance?
    Pokemon Black: Black people
    Pokemon White: White people
    Pokemon Yellow: Asians
  11. Nikolay

    Nikolay GBAtemp Fan

    Mar 19, 2010
    United States
    But what about us Russians, Pokemon Red?
  12. Ryukouki

    Ryukouki See you later, guys.

    Jan 31, 2008
    United States
    Oh dear god I lol'd.
  13. Hells Malice

    Hells Malice Are you a bully?

    Apr 9, 2009
    I actually think the 3D style looks pretty horrid. They should have just stuck to making the basic terrain look better.

    HG might be my last pokemon game till they actually do something unique with the game. Only so many times I can use the same battle system and still be entertained.
  14. Deleted_171835

    OP Deleted_171835 Newbie

    Nah. They're releasing it for the DS.
    It might have DSi/3DS exclusive features, though. Doesn't hurt to hope!
  15. Sonia

    Sonia Resident Bikini Gal

    Sep 13, 2009
    United States
    Not possible. It's been said that it's being made for the DS and DSi handhelds on the Japanese website.
  16. yobemal

    yobemal GBAtemp Regular

    Jun 21, 2009
    Wow... Can't wait for E3 this year! this, Zelda, Metroid, 3DS.. [​IMG]
  17. Guild McCommunist

    Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    May 6, 2009
    United States
    Metroid is getting released like next month. Why would it be at E3? Unless the rumors of the push back for its release are true.
  18. yobemal

    yobemal GBAtemp Regular

    Jun 21, 2009
    Nintendo haven't said anything about releasing Metroid next month? [​IMG]
  19. Terenigma

    Terenigma Terenigma everywhere

    Nov 10, 2008
    I just woke up and read that it has been push back -

    Although still not officially confirmed it seems that Wii games Metroid: Other M and Sin & Punishment: Successor Of The Skies have been delayed in the U.S.

    Sin & Punishment has only been put back a few weeks and the UK date of May 7 so far appears unaffected.

    Metroid though has suddenly gone from August 15 to "to be decided". Whether this is due to the so far lukewarm response to its press demos is unclear.
  20. yobemal

    yobemal GBAtemp Regular

    Jun 21, 2009
    All I heard for the date of other M is "This summer"... -.-
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