Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[tabzer]

Remember how you asked if I was attacking your character when I made the statement about you guys not listening to evidence?
Yeah... at this point I'll let it be an attack on your character.
We've already told you, shown you, used evidence from courts, that there is no voter fraud. We've provided our sources. We've provided arguments.
Now here you are just wanting to make a statement, without any evidence, and then when someone asks you for evidence, you side step the issue and attack the person.
When lacius asks you to "put up or shut up"
We are strictly asking for evidence to your claims, evidence that is irrefutable or at least strong. That doesn't have some significant issue or extreme leaning.
If it comes from something like idk
Project vertias or beritbart. When they have a long track record of either having extremist views and along with not being factual. We write that evidence off. Because that source, is extremely sketchy. TO prevent problems since I don't know if you can natively use English or you use google translate. Replace sketchy with questionable.
Sources we often use, are as least extreme as possible and has a high reputation of accurately reporting things.

Oh that's cool. You can retroactively change the meaning and the intention of what you said by using a switch in your mind. Too bad nothing of what you are saying has anything to do with what I've said.

You're arguing with someone who tried to defend pedophilia. I don't think you're gonna have any luck in your endeavors.

I did not "try to defend pedophilia." I only said that you can't know that Guilini is a pedophile based on Borat movie scene. I said that it is likely that he was attracted to a 24 year old girl, and that if she did say she was 15, it only confused him. Your support the notion that you know he is a pedophile because you know what he was thinking. The evidence you share by saying this is that you have a kinship with pedophiles on an exclusive level.

Yeah, we got on the subject of the Giuliani scene from the new Borat movie, and he was like "if an old man wants to have sex with a 15 year old, we should let that pass because he's probably not getting any anyway".

If you are going to quote me, then quote me. Don't make up things and pretend I said them.

I guess we already knew that they'll defend anything.

Fun game you are playing. I think pedophilia is patently worse than lying. But you, Lacius, say that they are the same thing. I've already witnessed you lying, so you are likely guilty of both.

 

[Joom]

If you are going to quote me, then quote me. Don't make up things and pretend I said them.

Why would you ever ask your accuser to incriminate you further? I'm just going by the analogy you tried to give and then called me dense for not understanding. You sympathized with pedophilia. There's absolutely no way you can justify it. People who care enough can go back and read it.

 

[tabzer]

Why would you ever ask your accuser to incriminate you further? I'm just going by the analogy you tried to give and then called me dense for not understanding. You sympathized with pedophilia. There's absolutely no way you can justify it. People who care enough can go back and read it.

I'm asking you use direct references. Not to double-down and lie even harder. You are still too dense for not understanding what I wrote.

 

[Joom]

I'm asking you use direct references. Not to double-down and lie even harder. You are still too dense for not understanding what I wrote.

I don't have to. You know what you said. People can see what you said. There's no other way to understand what you said by sympathizing with Giuliani and saying "it's ok because she was actually of age, but Giuliani didn't know that, but he must have because people can magically determine age". We've had this argument. It's already done. You sympathize with pedophiles. If you didn't want to come off that way, maybe you shouldn't have involved yourself in a race you didn't have a horse in. The one who argues in gotchas ironically got caught by a gotcha.

 

[tabzer]

You do know that pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent/minors. If Guiliani is attracted to someone who is physically 24, and mentally 24, then that is not pedophilia. People can read what I wrote, but for some reason I feel compelled to point out that when you use quotations like that, that a search using the site functions will point to you as being the only person to have said it.

 

[Lacius]

Oh that's cool. You can retroactively change the meaning and the intention of what you said by using a switch in your mind. Too bad nothing of what you are saying has anything to do with what I've said.



I did not "try to defend pedophilia." I only said that you can't know that Guilini is a pedophile based on Borat movie scene. I said that it is likely that he was attracted to a 24 year old girl, and that if she did say she was 15, it only confused him. Your support the notion that you know he is a pedophile because you know what he was thinking. The evidence you share by saying this is that you have a kinship with pedophiles on an exclusive level.



If you are going to quote me, then quote me. Don't make up things and pretend I said them.



Fun game you are playing. I think pedophilia is patently worse than lying. But you, Lacius, say that they are the same thing. I've already witnessed you lying, so you are likely guilty of both.

Did you just argue that liars are likely pedophiles?

Also, when you can't actually show a time I lied, I have no choice but to ignore your claims that I'm a liar.

 

[Deleted User]

Oh that's cool. You can retroactively change the meaning and the intention of what you said by using a switch in your mind. Too bad nothing of what you are saying has anything to do with what I've said.

Nothing to do with what you said?
Well then...
Let's have a conversation refresh? shall we?

 

[Lacius]

Nothing to do with what you said?
Well then...
Let's have a conversation refresh? shall we?

I don't recommend a conversation with him. He will never offer evidence for any of his false claims.

 

[tabzer]

Did you just argue that liars are likely pedophiles?

Yeah, if the liar believes that lying and pedophilia are equivalent--then they are probably a pedophile.

 

[Lacius]

Yeah, if the liar believes that lying and pedophilia are equivalent--then they are probably a pedophile.

I didn't say they are.

 

[tabzer]

He will never offer evidence for any of his false claims.

Lol, you make claims that are demonstrably false, then you run away instead of being accountable for them. It's a bit different than me saying,"oh yeah, that's a possibility" and not feeling compelled to prove it.

I didn't say they are.

Yes you did. You said that the use of pedophilia and lying were effectively the same--that it would be asinine to consider one to be more serious of an offense than the other.

Nothing to do with what you said?
Well then...
Let's have a conversation refresh? shall we?

I can forget it.

 

[Joom]

If Guiliani is attracted to someone who is physically 24, and mentally 24,

There you go again, arguing that people can magically tell age against someone claiming their age. The point is that if she claimed she was 15, he assumed that was true, and went through with pursuing her sexually. You argued that that was ok anyway since he's old and probably isn't getting laid anyway, so he deserves to rape an assumed minor. Do you really want me to quote you saying this?

 

[tabzer]

There you go again, arguing that people can magically tell age against someone claiming their age.

That's not my argument.

 

[SonowRaevius]

You do know that pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent/minors..

Holy shit....you didn't just literally use the line that every pedo in the world literally uses when trying to defend the act, did you?....dude....just stop before this gets any worse for you.

If Guiliani is attracted to someone who is physically 24, and mentally 24, then that is not pedophilia. People can read what I wrote, but for some reason I feel compelled to point out that when you use quotations like that, that a search using the site functions will point to you as being the only person to have said it.

That is implying that he actually knew her age, which he didn't.

Even if you go with "I don't know what was going on through his head" it clearly wasn't anything good, the dude saw some young, attractive girl who, as far as he knew was 15, and was taking her up to his private room for god knows what. Any person with any decency would have declined that and there is no good excuse for it whatsoever.

And yes it is the same as To Catch a predator or when people bust others for trying to meet up with minors as well. If they think that it is someone young and their first thought it is "Hmm I am going to try to take them somewhere private because I might get to do sexual things with them" is automatically fucked in the head.

Sitting there and trying to defend it or rationalize it in any shape or form while excusing it just makes you look bad.

 

[Joom]

That's not my argument.

It literally is, though. You're also assuming that you know his thoughts and intentions.

 

[tabzer]

Holy shit....you didn't just literally use the line that every pedo in the world literally uses when trying to defend the act, did you?....dude....just stop before this gets any worse for you.

I don't know every pedo in the world. I don't think I know any. I'll trust your expertise.

who, as far as he knew was 15

The crux of my argument that is not the case.

Sitting there and trying to defend it or rationalize it in any shape or form while excusing it just makes you look bad.

Thanks for caring.

 

[Lacius]

Lol, you make claims that are demonstrably false, then you run away instead of being accountable for them. It's a bit different than me saying,"oh yeah, that's a possibility" and not feeling compelled to prove it.



Yes you did. You said that the use of pedophilia and lying were effectively the same--that it would be asinine to consider one to be more serious of an offense than the other.


I can forget it.

None of these things are true. You've made the claim that Trump could still win the election (he can't), you've made the claim that I lied (I didn't), and you've made the claim that I said lying and pedophilia were effectively the same (I didn't). Put up or shut up. Your list of blunders is getting long.

 

[tabzer]

It literally is, though. You're also assuming that you know his thoughts and intentions.

I said that nobody knows his thoughts and intentions. I made up a possible scenario where your presumptive guilt wouldn't apply.

None of these things are true. You've made the claim that Trump could still win the election (he can't), you've made the claim that I lied (I didn't), and you've made the claim that I said lying and pedophilia were effectively the same (I didn't). Put up or shut up. Your list of blunders is getting long.

You still lie. And I did put up. Can't help it if you avert your eyes and shut off your brain when it happens. Maybe the experience is just too traumatizing for you to account for it.

 

[Lacius]

I said that nobody knows his thoughts and intentions. I made up a possible scenario where your presumptive guilt wouldn't apply.


You still lie. And I did put up. Can't help it if you avert your eyes and shut off your brain when it happens. Maybe the experience is just too traumatizing for you to account for it.

You didn't. Tag me know when you do.

 

[tabzer]

You didn't. Tag me know when you do.

What? Are you okay?