Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Joom]

It wasn't even that I was sarcastic

That's why I said "and the like". Hyperbole, metaphors, analogies, idioms, and all the rest English speakers use to say something that doesn't mean what they literally said doesn't directly translate well because these are actually rather complex facets of the English language. Native Japanese speakers especially don't grasp it because like I said, these things really don't exist within the language or culture.

 

[tabzer]

that's the same as what he's doing.

Calling someone a pedophile because someone said you are lying is not the same thing. One was retaliation, intended to be a lot harsher than the original claim--which was a genuine concern.

 

[djpannda]

\I don't think it's very honest.

YAYY your here... have you landed safely in Moccoro?Hows the weather? I told you it was beautiful!!

 

[Lacius]

A claim without evidence can be, and often is, accepted without evidence, too. I'm not handfeeding you because I don't want to misrepresent the idea that this forum is even capable of being a central repository of facts when the past 67 pages already establish the contrary. The notion that Trump can still win is no stakes expression of a possibility that is irrelevant and inconsequential to whether or not he does win.

My claims are substantiated by many reasons that aren't formatted and submitted in any official way. The claim that you are lying to me simply needed to be reviewed a few posts prior to be substantiated.

Put up or shut up.

The disclaimer, here "I didn't say that I didn't edit my post" is the kind of dishonesty I am talking about.

I didn't say that I didn't edit my post, and it doesn't matter if I edited my post to add an inconsequential word. Put up or shut up. Or better yet, drop the distraction entirely.

I saw intimidation in what you suggest you are capable of doing in the case I do not satisfy you.

You have completely missed my point when I made pretend accusations about you. I know you're not handfeeding me, but I'll handfeed you: If you can make baseless accusations, then that means anybody can make baseless accusations about anybody, and they're all equal. That was my point.

So, you are admitting that you see me as a conservative, and that it was your intended goal to exploit whatever you can to shame others to toe the line. That's a classic puritan tactic. Japanese society uses guilt and shame as conformity tools too. It's something that I disagree with, as I see it a hindrance of self-expression, freedom of thought, and artistic expression--encouraging self-loathing to develop in its place. Maybe that's how you were raised. I don't think it's very honest.

The only thing I'm shaming is poor argumentation and poor discourse. I'm not shaming ideology, at least not today.

 

[tabzer]

YAYY your here... have you landed safely in Moccoro?Hows the weather? I told you it was beautiful!!

At least you are very transparent about ridiculousness. I would say it's more honest than Lacius trying to bait people into saying things he feels morally superior in dismissing.

 

[Lacius]

Calling someone a pedophile because someone said you are lying is not the same thing. One was retaliation, intended to be a lot harsher than the original claim--which was a genuine concern.

If Person A makes a baseless accusation and claims to not have to defend it, and Person B makes a baseless accusation and claims to not have to defend it, they are on equal footing.

Also, my post was not retaliation. That's just asinine, as it was pretty clear I didn't mean it.

 

[djpannda]

At least you are very transparent about ridiculousness. I would say it's more honest than Lacius trying to bait people into saying things he feels morally superior in dismissing.

yea Lacius Is too dumb, he is presenting wild Conspiracy theories about Biden winning the election just because Biden won the popular vote and Electoral. and He does not believe the claims of voter fraud just because there no proof... I mean what does Lacius need to belevie us ...real proof...?

 

[tabzer]

yea Lacius Is too dumb, he is presenting wild Conspiracy theories about Biden winning the election just because Biden won the popular vote and Electoral. and He does not believe the claims of voter fraud just because there no proof... I mean what does Lacius need to belevie us ...real proof...?

He's not dumb. He's very intelligent. You are dumb. But you don't try to hide it. He tries to hide his dumb, which is why he calls technical fouls every time the conversation isn't going the way he wants it. It's as if he thinks computers are superior to people, and that people should emulate the machines.

 

[Lacius]

He's not dumb. He's very intelligent. You are dumb. But you don't try to hide it. He tries to hide his dumb, which is why he calls technical fouls every time the conversation isn't going the way he wants it. It's as if he thinks computers are superior to people, and that people should emulate the machines.

When the person I'm talking to makes points I disagree with but can't back them up, trust me, the conversation is going exactly how I want it to go.

 

[djpannda]

He's not dumb. He's very intelligent. You are dumb. But you don't try to hide it. He tries to hide his dumb, which is why he calls technical fouls every time the conversation isn't going the way he wants it. It's as if he thinks computers are superior to people, and that people should emulate the machines.

wait you said he was "very intelligent" but then stated "tries to hide his dumb"... im starting to believe you don't understand what those words mean....

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[tabzer]

When the person I'm talking to makes points I disagree with but can't back them up, trust me, the conversation is going exactly how I want it to go.

I know you want a disagreement, but when you say things like that, you are injecting points that I didn't make and trying to make me accountable for them.

wait you said he was "very intelligent" but then stated "tries to hide his dumb"... im starting to believe you don't understand what those words mean....

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Nobody is perfectly smart. Nobody is perfectly dumb. It's when people try to pretend that the other doesn't exist in them, dishonesty is a result.

 

[Lacius]

I know you want a disagreement, but when you say things like that, you are injecting points that I didn't make and trying to make me accountable for them.

Do... Do you... Do you not remember what we were just talking about? We very clearly disagreed about whether or not Joe Biden won the election (he did) and whether or not I lied (I didn't).

 

[djpannda]

I know you want a disagreement, but when you say things like that, you are injecting points that I didn't make and trying to make me accountable for them.



Nobody is perfectly smart. Nobody is perfectly dumb. It's when people try to pretend that the other doesn't exist in them, dishonesty is a result.

. yea it is dishonest to present information without any proof.. ..thats something a デクwould do because they do not know any better

 

[tabzer]

Do... Do you... Do you not remember what we were just talking about? We very clearly disagreed about whether or not Joe Biden won the election (he did) and whether or not I lied (I didn't).

I agreed with you on the colloquial sense, but not the contradicting, definite sense. And you were lying to me when you said "I don't think I made any edits"--a false modesty that you tried to insulate with a "because the website doesn't show proof that I made an edit". It's deceitful, and makes me think that you aren't above retroactively editing your posts to embellish them for your stated intention of making an example out of people. It was a small thing, but in practice, it did change the nuance in a noticeable way for me.

 

[Lacius]

I know at least one conservative is going to say I'm being inappropriate, but this is an article from 2013 I have bookmarked that I read from time to time, and it always brings a smile to my face.

https://www.theonion.com/when-youre-feeling-low-just-remember-ill-be-dead-in-ab-1819584806

 

[tabzer]

. yea it is dishonest to present information without any proof

I don't think that's true. If the information is an opinion or a thought, it doesn't need to be anything more than what it is

 

[Lacius]

I agreed with you on the colloquial sense, but not the contradicting, definite sense. And you were lying to me when you said "I don't think I made any edits"--a false modesty that you tried to insulate with a "because the website doesn't show proof that I made an edit". It's deceitful, and makes me think that you aren't above retroactively editing your posts to embellish them for your stated intention of making an example out of people. It was a small thing, but in practice, it did change the nuance in a noticeable way for me.

The only sense by which Trump won the election was an imaginary one.

There was nothing deceitful about my post. The more you bring it up, the less likely I think it is I edited the post.

 

[djpannda]

I know at least one conservative is going to say I'm being inappropriate, but this is an article from 2013 I have bookmarked that I read from time to time, and it always brings a smile to my face.

https://www.theonion.com/when-youre-feeling-low-just-remember-ill-be-dead-in-ab-1819584806

Hey that my new source I used to determined Trump won.. !!

 

[Lacius]

Hey that my new source I used to determined Trump won.. !!

You're a treasure.

 

[djpannda]

I don't think that's true. If the information is an opinion or a thought, it doesn't need to be anything more than what it is

yes because information does not need to be real.. duh.. otherwise it would a [email protected]

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soo please continue on providing us nonfactual information.. I hear if you say it 100times it because real! TRUMP WON.TRUMP WON.TRUMP WON ETC..

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