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  1. omgcat

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    and you wonder why i ask for peer-reviewed studies/ actual verifiable proof lol
     
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    It’s all fun and games (storming the Capitol and killing 5 people) .. until Twitter bans Trump .. than it’s a serious issue
     
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    I feel liberated actually. Leaving aside my political beliefs, I'm glad all the drama it's over, let the government do its thing. Sure it could have gone the other way, but let's say I'm so disgusted by this travesty of an election that I'm manually purging all my YouTube subscriptions by unfollowing most political channels, which used to be 80% of my feeds. Now I'm left with that 20% made of video games news/reviews, arcade joysticks comparison, dieting and fasting techniques, astronomy, some Joe Rogan and a lot of Scott The Woz. Hell I'm even back on GBATemp after years of being away. And I joined this joint back in 2006 I believe, some of you weren't even borne yet
     
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    Killing 5 people? It seems 4 were on the side of protesters, one on the side of the cops.

    Isn´t it weird how Western media never called the HK riots or BLM "deadly riots", even when they attacked and killed cops/civilians.
     
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    They sell guns to people with mental issues, why do you think they'd lock them up?

    To be fair the election wasn't the problem, it was Trumps ability to convince people that there was an issue.

    Trump would just say that the peers were lying, unless they agreed with him and then they would be heroes. Which is a poor strategy as nobody is never wrong.

    I'm not sure what your point is. 4+1=5 The assault on the capitol killed 5 people.

    I'm not aware of BLM protesters turning up armed with guns and pipe bombs.

    BLM marches were against oppression while the assault on the capitol were oppressors, the Trump supporters might be dumb and brain washed into it but like muslims that are brainwashed into fighting for their cause they were the ones in the wrong.

    It would only seem weird if you were also brainwashed.

    BLM want to stop black people being killed during interactions with the police.
    Trumps terrorists want to overturn a legitimate election.
     
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    So if the re-capturing of CHAZ/CHOP (autonomous zone born via BLM) had caused the death of protesters, the protests would be called deadly? Yeah, right. Even after murders and rapes had been going on in this young state the media never called it deadly (it even called them romantic in the beginning).

    There have been people shot and killed by BLM protesters (policemen and civilians). I don´t remember pipe bombs (HK riots had those though and were never called "deadly" either).

    In the eyes of the protesters - be it Trump supporters, BLM or HK protesters - they are the oppressed. Trump supporters thought the election had been stolen. Irrational? Maybe. So was 4 years of Russia gate propaganda.
    There is a line you do not cross: attacking innocent people or launching assaults on government buildings.
    All three riots have crossed this line. I am the only one objective enough to say it.
     
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    Holy fuck. Why are we comparing normal riots with armed terrorists storming the capitol again? The people still defending this need a reality check. Both were completely different situations with different goals as pointed out many times. This must be a hell of a mix of kool aid, crack and copium.
     
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    BLM terrorized and set on fire whole cities. The pictures and videos are still available at your finger tips.
    What are "normal riots" btw?
    All three riots were "mostly peaceful" but brought death and destruction.
     
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    Well the right wing anti BLM protesters did turn up armed, so really the anti protesters were deadly.

    Less people died at BLM marches than police killed black people, while Trump supporters only attacked the capitol because Trump can't handle the truth. So you're always going to get a difference in reporting, even if that upsets you because you can't handle the truth.

    Sure, but black people are oppressed while Trump supporters are entitled.

    You could argue it's not their fault they are mentally weak and were brainwashed by Trump, but you have to take some responsibility for yourself.

    You're not objective & you're far from the only person to have criticized the BLM marches. You're just trying to justify an armed assault on the capitol with whataboutism.
     
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    A moment ago you did not make this distinction! You called the capitol riots deadly. The capitol riots were called "deadly riots" by the media even at the time only one woman, a Trump supporter, had been shot and killed yet. You can check it via a search engine.
    Please stick to one logic.
    By the way BLM protesters also killed people.

    No, I am the only person on this thread to condemn all three.
     
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    Isn't that how conversations work? You say something then later you say something else.
    I can change my mind and restate a different view point later if I want as well.

    deadly: causing or able to cause death.

    Are you disputing it was deadly?

    I don't remember calling them deadly, only agreeing with your description of them being deadly as people died.

    If you're talking about different things then I'm not going to be constrained by a single view, things are not black and white.

    I don't know what all the BLM protesters did, do you want to point out an example?

    All three what?
     
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    Don´t ask me for sources or peer-reviewed studies. :)
    I was online like all of you during the BLM protests. I remember a black officer bleeding to death being filmed by protesters, news about killed officers, a woman being shot in the head shortly after having said "all lives matter", shops being burned, shop owners (and their family members) being beaten, barricaded streets as far as the eye can see, kneeling cops, a BLM supporter´s window being smashed in (nominated for my video of the year), a reporter calling the riots "mostly" peaceful when it seemed like a scene taken from Naked Gun.

    I condemn all three riots: BLM, HK and the capitol riots. You don´t attack innocent people or attack government buildings. Unless you want anarchy (which I don´t).
    All three were deadly and only I am ready to say so. Due to your bias you cannot abandon your double standard.
     
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    Not that it really matters, but BLM protests absolutely were attended by armed participants.

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    I don't even think that's a problem either - I strongly support the right to bear arms. Problems arise when you use those arms in an illegal manner. Most protestors didn't, which is great. The first amendment empowers them to peaceably assemble and the second empowers them to carry and protect themselves and their rights, no complaints.

    In regards to the damage done during the BLM riots, they've generated 1-2 billion dollars in damages across the United States, $500 million in Minneapolis alone, which makes them the highest recorded damages from civil disorder in U.S. history. "At least" 19 people have died during the riots - "at least" because it's difficult to tabulate which deaths were directly caused by riots and which were unrelated. Between murder, rape, looting, arson and storming government buildings like the police station in Seattle (which was completely taken over and transformed into a part of CHAZ) or the Portland courthouse (which was full of federal officers when protestors barricaded it from the outside and attempted to set it in fire) it wasn't exactly a "peaceful protest".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests

    It's also interesting to note that at the time BLM marched hand in hand with the Boogaloo Bois, a group often characterised as part of the extremist right-wing, but I think it's far more accurate to simply call them anti-government. The reason why I point that out is because there's a perception that BLM protests were more partisan than they really were - anti-government sentiment exists on both sides of the aisle, especially when it comes to police brutality.

    I also have to draw your attention to the katana, which is pretty dope, credit where credit is due.

    It should be non-controversial to call out violence in both instances, but the BLM protests happened in the summer and the Capitol Hill protest happened just a few days ago, so focusing on the "now" is more important. The BLM ship has sailed, I don't think anyone's going to change their minds at this stage.
     
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    Funny .. I love how all of you arguments are moot with one pic
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    Nazis
     
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    I think it's important to note, especially for those playing sides against each other for the sake of political/narrative leverage, that every protest is an opportunity for exploitation. People who aren't averse to criminal/violent behavior will take advantage of the cover of a protest for various reasons. Their actions do not represent the cause of the whole.

    It is an unfortunate reality that the protests of BLM has a higher degree of these instances, due to a couple of reasons outside of the groups control.

    The immediate problem I see is the media's response and obvious double-faced representation. It should be no doubt to anyone that they are trying to manipulate the public for the sole reason of advocating their political/capital interests. Anyone who goes along with this deception are either working for free (ripping themselves off), deluded, or being paid. There is no incentive for these people to make our lives better. There is only incentive to sell you news (outrage sells), and to influence political policy for their continued future. When was the last time their "news" made your life better? I welcome anecdotal responses. This is a specific opinion I have, and have no interest in working to convince anyone who can't already see it.
     
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    Of course. Small, fringe groups of violent protestors do not represent the entirety of a movement, I think that goes without saying. During the BLM riots a lot of people who weren't even part of the movement used the cover of chaos to cause damage or enrich themselves. Similarly, if 100,000 protestors all wanted to destroy the United States Capitol, it wouldn't be standing today - that's a sea of people, no amount of force can move a group like that without a bloodbath. In both cases we're talking about small fractions of the total.
     
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    Remember when people were supporting Nazi.. so Shameful. The world fought The Nazis 75 years ago. Yet, people still find excuses for them. Remember “6MWNE” (6 million wasn’t enough) was the solgan. It does not matter if people thought it was only a small fringe.. it was drive factor of leadership A8A87E9A-FF8F-484C-9015-177A398B1607.jpeg
     
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    It's disgusting what authorities sat on, for who knows how long, only to put the person who provided for that kind of lifestyle to a position in office. Joe is still covering for him. It's disgusting, please remove it of your own volition. The media won't touch this and that means they are also complicit in covering it up.
     
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    I would appreciate it very much if explicit photos of Hunter Biden's sexcapades weren't posted on this website. I'll only give one warning.
     
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    thats what i thought :)
     
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