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  1. White_Raven_X

    White_Raven_X Hack everything, hack the world!
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    I absolutely DO NOT agree with the "baker in Colorado"... And that's ridiculous that you even bring that up.
     
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    It doesn't matter who agrees with it. It was ruled upon and set a legal precedent. On top of that it was a conservative legal precedent involving private company conduct. Lindsay Graham is setting a double standard by this statement, against his own platform.
     
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    "Everything that I don't like is Communism!"
     

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    ...yea private companies have a Constitutional right to creat and allow sedition and a coup...
     
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    No they have a Constitutional right to not be a platform for it. I think you may have missed the point here.
     
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    I swear... The stuff some people come up with on this site!
     
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    He's not wrong. In the absence of 230 protections social media as we know it cease to exist - companies like Facebook or Twitter would drown in lawsuits based on third-party content they host overnight, they would have to bear direct responsibility for each and every file on their vast servers. No amount of moderators or AI can sift through this much information, that's precisely why 230 is *the* legislation that allows them to operate. More specifically, the section shields social media from civil liability and enables them to moderate content any way they deem fit so far as it is done in "good faith", with the exception of content that violates federal law or infringes upon copyright (in both cases the content must be removed promptly, the the extent their technology allows them to do so, and they're obligated to cooperate with law enforcement) . The removal or alteration of 230 effectively means direct civil liability. The "Good Samaritan" element of the law has always been vague and controversial.
     
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    These people are retarded, if they strip 230 out because Twitter was mean, their own platforms will get shutdown immediately. Parlor can only exist because section 230 exists.
     
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    Their is NO CHANCE that 230 would ever be removed or modified! So good luck with that!

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    "Passed at a time when Internet use was just starting to expand in both breadth of services and range of consumers in the United States,[2] Section 230 has frequently been referred as a key law that has allowed the Internet to flourish"

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230

    Without this law, there would be NO social media! So 230 will NEVER change.
     
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    "The Ayatollah can tweet, but Trump can't."

    You'd think this would trigger at least one single moment of self-reflection, but nah, there's always whataboutism to fall back on, and always somebody else to blame. Party of personal responsibility my ass.
     
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    I don't think it should be entirely removed, but I can see it being altered or replaced accordingly. Websites *obviously* cannot be held legally liable for the content posted by their users - that's asinine. It would be as if a landlord was legally responsible for the illegal activity of their tennant. With that said, 230 is a protection the government bestows on the private entity, and as such something can be demanded in exchange. The government protects tenants from unlawful eviction, it protects their privacy, I don't see how that same level of protection shouldn't be afforded to social media users. Providing a free an open platform in exchange for protection from civil liability sounds like a great compromise to me, so long as no federal law is broken by the users - if that is the case, chase the user, by all means.
     
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    Can anyone tell me what Biden's plan is for boarder protection along the southern boarder that will be different to what Trump has done?
     
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    soo sad ... 80 million got robbed from hours of entertainment, you know Trump just screaming at himself.

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    not calling them rapist and murders.
     
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    Because then you get people like.. Uhmmm DONALD TRUMP that entice violence and division!

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    ‘The number of people coming to the US border was at historic lows by the end of the Obama administration. Under President Trump, they increased to levels not seen since 2007, and only last month came back down to the monthly level seen at the end of the Obama administration,’

    https://americasvoice.org/press_rel...igration-and-a-liar-on-immigration-ad-claims/
     
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    If it's going to be anything like Obama's border protection plan, expect deportations, a lot of them. You just won't get to hear about them on the news much. Right now he's calling them "a big mistake", but you know how those things go.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/time-biden-calls-obama-deportations-big-mistake-69010125

    In case people's memory isn't great on the Obama-Biden duo, they've deported more immigrants than any administration before, they're also "the ones who built the cages" in the first place. Not that it matters at this stage, at least long sections of the border wall were finally renovated and much of the shoddy "fencing" was replaced, so he's picking up the border in a better state than he left it in.
    Sounds like Trump's America is such a horrible place that everyone wants in. Who knew?
     
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    yea... but did not call 652 million people rapist and murders...
     
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    Because the separation of thousands of migrant parents from their children is better!? Whatever!
     
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    So your saying the media simply won't misquote Biden and let him do the exact same thing? ok gotcha.
     
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    I'm saying ... "will not call 652 million people rapist and murders"
     
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    Neither did Trump. He was specifically talking about illegal immigrants crossing the border, many of whom do have criminal histories. Trump also suggested that many women get raped during their trek across the border, which is consistent with many independent reports. Amnesty International estimated that 6 in 10 women crossing the border experience sexual violence by the hands of the coyotes who smuggle them across. Drug smuggling and gun smuggling are huge issues too. You can find his wording uncouth, but these issues are very real and they do affect communities along the border. As he said, "some are good people", but the influx of crime is undeniable. In fact, I'm sure the majority of them are simply looking for a better life on the other side, who can blame them when their communities are controlled by ruthless cartels. Sadly, there's a reason why the country has an immigration process, and immigration reform should be Biden's first priority in order to quickly and efficiently separate "the dreamers" from "the troublemakers".
     
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