Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[djpannda]

I heard this live on the air. It was... kind of sad.

I can't imagine what it'd be like to have that moment of realization that you've been strung along for 4+ years all for nothing.

I also can't imagine how so many people will never have that realization.

I feel for their pain but its needed to get people to really realize how they got swindled and I painfully and regrettably hope it will happen to much more of the Republican Party.

 

[Foxi4]

Alright, so stop using "both acts are wrong" as an excuse to justify the Capitol riots and ignore the blatant disregard for our democracy that Trump has demonstrated.

I'm not justifying anything - I am pointing out hypocrisy where I see it. I've started this conversation saying that storming the Capitol was idiotic and wrong, and maintain that opinion. We should be against any extreme behaviours like this across the board, not just when it's politically expedient.

 

[Xzi]

So @Foxi4 claims that breaking the law is bad, but you and @Xzi claim that it can be overlooked because you support the underlying cause.

That's not what I said. Read again and try again.

 

[djpannda]

Its going to be slow and long time to get Normal Americans to realized they been played by Republican leaders.. The others will have a harder time to face White nationalist tendencies

 

[Plasmaster09]

I'm not justifying anything - I am pointing out hypocrisy where I see it. I've started this conversation saying that storming the Capitol was idiotic and wrong, and maintain that opinion. We should be against any behaviours like this across the board, not just when it's politically expedient.

BLM protests wouldn't have any chance of turning violent if systemic racism and police brutality were tackled so that they didn't need to occur. How about we tackle things from that angle? And before you say it, the Capitol rioters did get their version of that angle- basically every corner of the election was scrutinized and determined to be devoid of any tampering anywhere near major enough to do anything to the actual results- but they didn't like that answer.

 

[Sicklyboy]

I'm not justifying anything - I am pointing out hypocrisy where I see it. I've started this conversation saying that storming the Capitol was idiotic and wrong, and maintain that opinion. We should be against any extreme behaviours like this across the board, not just when it's politically expedient.

And I won't disagree with a single thing you said in this quote.

My point stands though, that while yes, rioting is wrong, I can VERY MUCH sympathize with riots that, when started by the group initiating the peaceful protests, are happening because people are tired of being shot and killed just because they've got more melanin than I do.

I have no sympathy for anything that happens to the dumbasses that staged an armed invasion of the nation's capitol because they couldn't convince enough of their own people to vote in the fucking election.

 

[Foxi4]

BLM protests wouldn't have any chance of turning violent if systemic racism and police brutality were tackled so that they didn't need to occur. How about we tackle things from that angle? And before you say it, the Capitol rioters did get their version of that angle- basically every corner of the election was scrutinized and determined to be devoid of any tampering anywhere near major enough to do anything to the actual results- but they didn't like that answer.

As did the BLM protesters - Trump himself signed an executive order pushing for sweeping police reform in the wake of George Floyd's death. If you want to look further back than that, we'd have to start arguing statistics which go way beyond the scope of the thread - long story short, racial bias in policing is a controversial issue and year after year we see studies that fail to detect any. My point isn't that the BLM movement didn't have a reason to protest - the police does kill people, a lot, regardless of whether we look at white or black victims, and that's a big problem. I encourage them to exercise their first amendment right. Did they have incentives to loot Targets though? I don't think so. There's no excuse for rioting, looting, violence, arson or storming federal buildings. This *should* be uncontroversial, but we're all bending backwards to find excuses why "this particular case is different". No, it isn't - a small minority following clause X did Y, and we should disown them.

 

[Deleted User]

As did the BLM protesters - Trump himself signed an executive order pushing for sweeping police reform in the wake of George Floyd's death. If you want to look further back than that, we'd have to start arguing statistics which go way beyond the scope of the thread - long story short, racial bias in policing is a controversial issue and year after year we see studies that fail to detect any. My point isn't that the BLM movement didn't have a reason to protest - the police does kill people, a lot, regardless of whether we look at white or black victims, and that's a big problem. I encourage them to exercise their first amendment right. Did they have incentives to loot Targets though? I don't think so. There's no excuse for rioting, looting, violence, arson or storming federal buildings. This *should* be uncontroversial, but we're all bending backwards to find excuses why "this particular case is different". No, it isn't - a small minority following clause X did Y, and we should disown them.

mmmm, I would second guess that one chief.
Since uh, Police has a history...
And it's not exactly good.
Unless your telling me you can beat all 23 sources he provided.

 

[djpannda]

This one was Hilarious !! The WV delegate got arrested for his part in the Coup and he grandmother (legal Guardian) go to the police station with them .stated "thank you Mr Trump for invoking a riot"

Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/WSAZChadHedrick/status/1347629406043443203

 

[Foxi4]

mmmm, I would second guess that one chief.
Since uh, Police has a history...
And it's not exactly good.
Unless your telling me you can beat all 23 sources he provided.

Most certainly not in this thread since it would be entirely off-topic. The issue has been extensively studied and the statistics simply fail to show any significant, widespread racial bias in policing. In fact, some showed that, paradoxically, white suspects were more likely to be shot dead while black suspects were more likely to face excessive physical force instead. Unfortunately studies that support or disprove the idea of racial bias in policing can't be trusted, they're not representative since there's really no nation-wide system or database that tracks instances of police shootings/use of excessive force - researchers have to rely on small sample sizes from select few precincts which makes it difficult to determine how widespread the issue really is. The total numbers aren't even the point here - the point is that there are deeper underlying issues which lead to those fatal arrests, and we're missing the forest for the trees by focusing on race rather than resolving decades-long problems with insufficient training and the over-militarisation of the police. No amount of racial sensitivity seminars will stop them from using military gear if we keep giving them military gear. They're trained to be enforcers, so that's what they're doing, and that's a problem. You'd think they wouldn't need armored carriers, but they have those and then some, mostly due to the government offloading their military surplus. It's a huge mess, but personally I think it has less to do with the specter of "white supremacy in police departments" and more with a growing disconnect between the police and the people they're supposed to protect and serve.

 

[Aneki]

Trump's twitter account has been permanently suspended.

After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.https://t.co/CBpE1I6j8Y

— Twitter Safety (@TwitterSafety) January 8, 2021

 

[Lacius]

Trump's twitter account has been permanently suspended.

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1347684877634838528

It's about fucking time.

 

[Arecaidian Fox]

Trump's twitter account has been permanently suspended.

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1347684877634838528

Fucking finally...

 

[Sicklyboy]

Trump's twitter account has been permanently suspended.

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1347684877634838528

Now THAT is funny.

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

Trump's twitter account has been permanently suspended.

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1347684877634838528

Guess I was wrong.

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He really has no outlet to talk to his supporters anymore. He's gone on Insta, Facebook, and Twitter now.

 

[Xzi]

Trump's twitter account has been permanently suspended.

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1347684877634838528

Thank god, looks like it will possible to avoid seeing any mention of him once he's out of office after all. He's free to waste his time and money on "Trump News Network" if he wants, only the geriatrics still watch cable news.

 

[KingVamp]

I guess Parler is next.

 

[Lacius]

I guess Parler is next.

Good, because nobody pays attention to that.

 

[Ericzander]

The /r/DonaldTrump subreddit was also banned earlier today.

The president is just straight up not having a good time.

So anyway...

 

[White_Raven_X]

I guess Parler is next.

Apple talking about removing Parler from its app store!