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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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nice video analizing the call from a legal perspective
To be fair, it's an analysis from the Legal Eagle, so take it with a grain of salt. This is not his forte, he's a business litigator, not a constitutional scholar. His area of expertise are civil suits, primarily regarding contracts.
 
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To be fair, it's an analysis from the Legal Eagle, so take it with a grain of salt. This is not his forte, he's a business litigator, not a constitutional scholar. His area of expertise are civil suits, primarily regarding contracts.
But you can say that about almost all the Trump Lawyers also
Rudy,Peter Navarro etc?
edit I know Navarro is not a lawyer but he is a close adviser
 

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...wft I went to poop and all hell broke loose.. lol
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MAGA activists plot revenge on Republican ‘traitors’
They are turning against each other and Trump is still president for 15 days?
Man, This really is a foreshadowing the demise of the Republican Party.
...what the kentucky fried fuck
these guys are so crazy that not only do they no-true-scotsman anyone they disagree with out of the party, they intend to do so rather forcefully
WHAT IN THE WHATING WHAT WHAT
 

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There's not going to be a democracy at this point. Half of America doesn't believe in voting if Trump doesn't get elected, so it's a free for all for all the political opportunists.
 

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...wft I went to poop and all hell broke loose.. lol
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MAGA activists plot revenge on Republican ‘traitors’
They are turning against each other and Trump is still president for 15 days?
Man, This really is a foreshadowing the demise of the Republican Party.
The republican party *is* dead, and has been for a while. This is coming from a Trump supporter, so it's not exactly a biased opinion - Republicans suck, signed supporter of the Republican candidate. I don't think that the GOP represents their own set of values very well, their strategy of appeasement and making concessions has only led to their decline in key battleground states. It was infiltrated by a small wing I like to refer to as the "Trump Party" which somewhat revitalised the appeal, and this won't end with Trump. To quote commentator Ben Shapiro (IIRC), "this is not the beginning of the end, it's the end of the beginning". As older politicians are being replaced by younger representatives, Trump is going to be emulated since the approach obviously resonated with the crowds. Regardless of the outcome of the election, Trump pulled in people to the polls in higher numbers than any Republican candidate before him. People *will* campaign like Trump did in the future. I'm not certain a success like that is repeatable, but it will change the face of the party over the next decade.
 
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This is what I don't understand about people lumping Trump supporters with republicans. Trump has been primarily a democrat for a big part of his life, but ran republican because he didn't' have to worry about getting Bernie Sanders'd in order to win.
 

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The republican party *is* dead, and has been for a while. This is coming from a Trump supporter, so it's not exactly a biased opinion - Republicans suck. I don't think that the GOP represents their own set of values very well, their strategy of appeasement and making concessions has only led to their decline in key battleground states. It was infiltrated by a small wing I like to refer to as the "Trump Party" which somewhat revitalised the appeal, and this won't end with Trump. To quote commentator Ben Shapiro (IIRC), "this is not the beginning of the end, it's the end of the beginning". As older politicians are being replaced by younger representatives, Trump is going to be emulated since the approach obviously resonated with the crowds. Regardless of the outcome of the election, Trump pulled in people to the polls on higher numbers than any Republican candidate before him. I'm not certain a success like that is repeatable, but it will change the face of the party over the next decade.
I don't think it will Work again, the first time it was because "traditional Republican" keep their mouth shut thinking Trump was not going to be that Damaging. After this they will think twice about supporting people like that But if Trumpist leave the Republican party, They nor Republicans will have the National number again. as their best efforts brought Trump Record numbers but The Hate of Trump was able to bring about 6 million more
 
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I don't think it will Work again, the first time it was because "traditional Republican" keep their mouth shut thinking Trump was not going to be that Damaging. After this they will think twice about supporting people like that But if Trumpist leave the Republican party, They nor Republicans will have the National number again. as their best efforts brought Trump Record numbers but The Hate of Trump was able to bring about 6 million more
I can 100% see Ted "Punished" Cruz or even Trump himself running successfully on the same platform in 2024 and winning, particularly after 4 years of a Biden/Harris shit show, and it will be a shit show, I have no doubts about that. MAGApedes like myself will never forget, being a Trumpkin is for life, not just for Christmas.
 

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I can 100% see Ted "Punished" Cruz or even Trump himself running successfully on the same platform in 2024 and winning, particularly after 4 years of a Biden/Harris shit show, and it will be a shit show, I have no doubts about that. MAGApedes like myself will never forget, being a Trumpkin is for life, not just for Christmas.
So you believe election fraud is not a thing?

Even if you don't think it is, I have trouble believing people who would vote for Trump again will, unless the political/justice system vindicates his claims.

I'm sorry, I should call it the "controlled election".
 

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I can 100% see Ted "Punished" Cruz or even Trump himself running successfully on the same platform in 2024 and winning, particularly after 4 years of a Biden/Harris shit show, and it will be a shit show, I have no doubts about that. MAGApedes like myself will never forget, being a Trumpkin is for life, not just for Christmas.
you might believe the Rhetoic but a splintered "Republican Party" will not have the numbers flat out. Trump got a lot of Republican votes because some people will vote RED no matter who is on the ticket. If Trumpism splintered they can not count of those votes any more.. It will be the Tea Party moment again. Hot for 4 year cycle and die off next election.
 

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So you believe election fraud is not a thing?

Even if you don't think it is, I have trouble believing people who would vote for Trump again will, unless the political/justice system vindicates his claims.
I'm sure some fraud has occurred, as it does every election season - Republicans complain about it this year, Democrats complained about it in 2004, and even in 2016 (although that objection flew under the radar, everyone was too busy with Russia to care). With that said, it has to be evidenced, and on that front Trump's team has, so far, failed to deliver. There are many causes on both sides - to lack of transparency in some states (signatures on envelopes rather than ballots, making the process inauditable as they cannot be matched once separated), lack of cooperation with investigators on both sides and the general ineptitude of Trump's lawyers who talk a big game on conferences, but don't bring anything groundbreaking to the courts. This is not a battle Trump can win with his core strength - public appeal. This is a legal challenge, and his legal experts are a bit cuckoo-crazy.

you might believe the Rhetoic but a splintered "Republican Party" will not have the numbers flat out. Trump got a lot of Republican votes because some people will vote RED no matter who is on the ticket. If Trumpism splintered they can not count of those votes any more.. It will be the Tea Party moment again. Hot for 4 year cycle and die off next election.
Republicans are not stupid, they understand (aside from a few exceptions) that winning is the priority, and they will support a winning candidate. They were on their fours licking boots for 4 years, they'll go back on their fours again - any party would. Principles are great, but you can't govern with them, you need to win first. Once your guy is in you can enact your principles, before that you just have to play the game.
 
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Republicans are not stupid, they understand (aside from a few exceptions) that winning is the priority, and they will support a winning candidate. They were on their fours licking boots for 4 years, they'll go back on their fours again - any party would. Principles are great, but you can't govern with them, you need to win first. Once your guy is in you can enact your principles, before that you just have to play the game.
But that theory will only work if the Trumpist does not become Cannibals or splinter off completely
Also the Tea Party is a great example, they won a lot of seats but the gas ran out after 2012
 

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But that theory will only work if the Trumpist does not become Cannibals or splinter off completely
Also the Tea Party is a great example, they won a lot of seats but the gas ran out after 2012
I would explain the failure of the Tea Party, but that would require the use of many explatives. Needless to say, "politics are downstream from culture" and the Tea Party was incompatible with it. The Trumpism phenomenon is somewhat unprecedented, the last time a President was this beloved by his base was when Reagan was still in charge, and he's religiously revered even today. I'm hoping Trumpism will follow in the same direction.
 

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I would explain the failure of the Tea Party, but that would require the use of many explatives. Needless to say, "politics are downstream from culture" and the Tea Party was incompatible with it. The Trumpism phenomenon is somewhat unprecedented, the last time a President was this beloved by his base was when Reagan was still in charge, and he's religiously revered even today. I'm hoping Trumpism will follow in the same direction.
I’m sure he will be remember just like Regan and like the failure that is Reganmonics.( which attributed to the ridiculously disparaging wealth gap it created.
 
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