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[Lacius]

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Fair point, the graph above pretty much proves that more people will die if we take precautions.

"Freedom is childish."

Your responses seem detached from the conversation, which makes it difficult, if not almost impossible, to respond. You're not being coherent. Your graph doesn't contradict the part of my post you were responding to, the graph does not "prove more people will die if we take precautions," and I never said freedom was childish. Are you okay?

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Stop politicizing a pandemic.

Yes, stop using China's bioweapon for political gain when the Black Plague still exists in California.

 

[SG854]

Yes they do. Science says so. You don't have to be a liberal to believe in science. Stop politicizing a pandemic.

He's a sarcastic speaker. Every post he does is sarcastic.

 

[jimbo13]

PLEASE TAKE A STATS COURSE!

My MaSC prepared me to analyze data just fine thank you, which I know you didn't do in 10 minutes between posts. You looked for a partisan argument in the comment section and parroted it.

 

[Joom]

He's a sarcastic speaker. Every post he does is sarcastic.

Then that's on me.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Your responses seem detached from the conversation. Your graph doesn't contradict the part of my post you were responding to, the graph does not "prove more people will die if we take precautions," and I never said freedom was childish. Are you okay?

Did Sweden do anything to stop COVID?

 

[Joom]

Did Sweden do anything to stop COVID?

Yeah, they wore masks and socially distanced. Something Americans seem incapable of doing because half the country are dipshits.

 

[Lacius]

Did Sweden do anything to stop COVID?

People in Sweden largely social distanced and wore masks. There were differences when it came to mandates, but there were still mandates (bans on large gatherings, etc.). When you consider Sweden's population and population density, an argument can be made their response was relatively poor in hindsight. What's your point?

 

[jimbo13]

The science on masks is shaky at best, we have had corona viruses and airborne respiratory illness for all of modern history and every study prior to 2020 says cloth masks don't do a fucking thing. What is bad for covid, A Bunch of Karen's with silly catch phrases sewn on their new face accessories going to the store in groups, touching a bunch of shit unnecessarily and still using their phones. Masks are a detriment if the wearer is not disciplined enough not to touch their face.

 

[Lacius]

The science on masks is shaky at best, we have had corona viruses and airborne respiratory illness for all of modern history and every study prior to 2020 says cloth masks don't do a fucking thing. It's what bad for covid? A Bunch of Karen's with silly catch phrases sewn on their new face accessories going to the store in groups, touching a bunch of shit unnecessarily and still using their phones. Masks are a detriment of the wearer is not disciplined enough not to touch their face.

The science of mask efficacy is clear, and while different kinds of masks have different degrees of efficacy, cloth masks work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_masks_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic#:~:text=A surgical mask, by design,sneezes, or certain medical procedures.&text=However, in practice, with respect,as N95 or FFP masks

Edit: We also have great studies on COVID-19 transmission rates in counties with mask mandates and in comparable counties without mask mandates, and the results are quite clear that masks and mask mandates work. It's unambiguous.

 

[Joom]

The science on masks is shaky at best,

It's really not, but I assume you're a biochemist, or work in biology in general, so I guess you're right.

we have had corona viruses and airborne respiratory illness for all of modern history and every study prior to 2020 says cloth masks don't do a fucking thing

https://www.history.com/news/1918-pandemic-public-health-campaigns

 

[UltraSUPRA]

People in Sweden largely social distanced and wore masks. There were differences when it came to mandates, but there were still mandates (bans on large gatherings, etc.). When you consider Sweden's population and population density, an argument can be made their response was relatively poor in hindsight. What's your point?

It's almost as if it's a natural instinct to do things you're not supposed to do and get away with them. I won't be wearing masks if I don't have to, but I'd imagine many of us who are against them would.
Here's a good Stonetoss comic on the matter.

 

[jimbo13]

It's really not, but I assume you're a biochemist, or work in biology in general, so I guess you're right.

https://www.history.com/news/1918-pandemic-public-health-campaigns

Actually I am a materials engineer, I design clean rooms and I know how many aerosol PPMs pass through cloth.

 

[djpannda]

The science on masks is shaky at best, we have had corona viruses and airborne respiratory illness for all of modern history and every study prior to 2020 says cloth masks don't do a fucking thing. What is bad for covid, A Bunch of Karen's with silly catch phrases sewn on their new face accessories going to the store in groups, touching a bunch of shit unnecessarily and still using their phones. Masks are a detriment if the wearer is not disciplined enough not to touch their face.

Thank you, mask are useless, I mean what do those silly DR and Nurses know? Its not like the medical field has been wearing maks 100 years . . Please I remember when Ebloa was the disease of the week and no Dr needed any type of protection.. its un-American

 

[Lacius]

Actually I am a materials engineer, I design clean rooms and I know how many aerosol PPMs pass through cloth.

We also have great studies on COVID-19 transmission rates in counties with mask mandates and in comparable counties without mask mandates, and the results are quite clear that masks and mask mandates work. It's unambiguous. Claiming you "know things" doesn't contradict the science. Claiming to "know things" isn't data.

 

[jimbo13]

The science of mask efficacy is clear, and while different kinds of masks have different degrees of efficacy, cloth masks work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_masks_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic#:~:text=A surgical mask, by design,sneezes, or certain medical procedures.&text=However, in practice, with respect,as N95 or FFP masks

Edit: We also have great studies on COVID-19 transmission rates in counties with mask mandates and in comparable counties without mask mandates, and the results are quite clear that masks and mask mandates work. It's unambiguous.

Correlation does equal causation, it's safe to assume anyplace with a mask mandate had numerous other measures at play simultaneously.

 

[Joom]

Actually I am a materials engineer, I design clean rooms and I know how many aerosol PPMs pass through cloth.

Thanks for the word soup. I'm sure you think you're gonna get me to go "oh derr okie dokie", but that has absolutely nothing to do with epidemiology. So, congrats for knowing the safe levels of lead and asbestos, I guess.

 

[Lacius]

It's almost as if it's a natural instinct to do things you're not supposed to do and get away with them. I won't be wearing masks if I don't have to, but I'd imagine many of us who are against them would.
Here's a good Stonetoss comic on the matter.

Masks and mask mandates work. Arguing defiance is natural doesn't make it moral, and it doesn't make you or people like you less of assholes for (and you admitted this) not caring about the lives of strangers around you.

 

[jimbo13]

We also have great studies on COVID-19 transmission rates in counties with mask mandates and in comparable counties without mask mandates, and the results are quite clear that masks and mask mandates work. It's unambiguous. Claiming you "know things" doesn't contradict the science. Claiming to "know things" isn't data.

I've read numerous peer reviewed studies on the subject, there is no shortage of studies and medical professionals that deny the efficacy of cloth masks preventing airborne transmissions. I'll gladly concede there is a few whipped up in the last 6 months that contradict the last 50 years of accepted science.

 

[Joom]

It's almost as if it's a natural instinct to do things you're not supposed to do and get away with them.

I'll reiterate a point @Lacius made; do you follow speed limit laws? If so, why? If your life and everyone else's means this little, why have you not killed yourself yet?