Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Xzi]

I'm not surprised at all. Just because racism exists and is a touchy subject doesn't make it an argument on the presented issue.

"Just because they're using the same accusations and tactics as the KKK doesn't mean racism is involved!" Remember what I said before about playing dumb?

 

[tabzer]

But the whole case is based on racist intent. If Kamala parent were white European, this would not been a issue at all.

The intent maybe racist. AFAIK Democrats and Republicans only disagree on how to be racist. The case will probably be shut down on the basis of being frivolous, but it won't be shutdown because of "racism".

"Just because they're using the same accusations and tactics as the KKK doesn't mean racism is involved!" Remember what I said before about playing dumb?

we're way past that point

 

[djpannda]

The intent maybe racist. AFAIK Democrats and Republicans only disagree on how to be racist. The case will probably be shut down on the basis of being frivolous, but it won't be shutdown because of "racism".

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oh so your not blind that it’s racist motive .. it’s just that you don’t care.. got it

 

[Xzi]

The intent maybe racist. AFAIK Democrats and Republicans only disagree on how to be racist. The case will probably be shut down on the basis of being frivolous, but it won't be shutdown because of "racism".

They'll simply decline to hear the case, as they've declined to hear similar cases in the past. SCOTUS doesn't rule on intent.

We're way past that point

I was referring to the accusation that she's an "illegitimate American" because of where her parents were born. That's no less racist than suggesting she's illegitimate because of where she herself was born, and the history of attacking natural born citizenship is no less steeped in racism either.

 

[tabzer]

oh so your not blind that it’s racist motive .. it’s just that you don’t care.. got it

If you can see inside the person's head, then I'd be willing to listen to you. But you can't see inside my head, so why give you a platform? What you say might be more meaningful if you weren't the one spouting off racist rhetoric.

SCOTUS doesn't rule on intent.

*clap clap clap*

I was referring to the accusation that she's an "illegitimate American" because of where her parents were born. That's no less racist than suggesting she's illegitimate because of where she herself was born.

Well, there you go, misrepresenting the actual case again, imbued with your own "superior" brand of racism.

Is there a line between nationality and race?

 

[djpannda]

If you can see inside the person's head, then I'd be willing to listen to you. But you can't see inside my head, so why give you a platform? What you say might be more meaningful if you weren't the one spouting off racist rhetoric.




*clap clap clap*



Well, there you go, misrepresenting the actual case again, imbued with your own "superior" brand of racism.

No I understand...Racism does not bother you .. yup got it

 

[tabzer]

No I understand...Racism does not bother you .. yup got it

Not when it comes from a hypocrite that has no position over my life.

Well that was directed specifically at you. Of course racism is troubling issue

 

[Xzi]

*clap clap clap*

Don't start clapping yet, I never said it wasn't easy for the rest of us to determine their intent with this case. Their motives are thinly-veiled at best, as is typical of lawsuits filed by partisan hacks.

Well, there you go, misrepresenting the actual case again

How is that a misrepresentation? This lawsuit was filed in response specifically to Kamala Harris being elected VP. Even if an attack on natural born citizenship was filed outside of the political realm, and without naming any specific candidate, it would still have some obvious racial overtones attached. But they did choose to name her and make it far more personal than it needed to be, and they are accusing her citizenship of being illegitimate because of where her parents were born.

 

[tabzer]

they are accusing her citizenship of being illegitimate because of where her parents were born

No they aren't. They are saying, specifically, that they were not American citizens when she was born. If you want to make an argument that any foreign national should be able to become VP, I won't argue against it.

 

[djpannda]

No they aren't. They are saying, specifically, that they were not American citizens when she was born. If you want to make an argument that any foreign national should be able to become VP, I won't argue against it.

see now your making sense .. you saying she not a real American because she not white European .. you should of said that from the start silly

 

[tabzer]

see now your making sense .. you saying she not a real American because she not white European .. you should of said that from the start silly

You still fail in demonstrating cognition. Try again.

 

[Xzi]

No they aren't. They are saying, specifically, that they were not American citizens when she was born.

Right, and the constitution makes no distinctions in that regard. You're born here, you're a US citizen. End of story. It doesn't matter who your parents are, where they come from, or where they maintain their citizenship at the time of birth. The accusation of illegitimacy is being levied at Harris because of her position, her political affiliation, and her skin color. There's no other reason for singling her out, or naming any one specific defendant in this case at all for that matter.

 

[tabzer]

You're born here, you're a US citizen. End of story.

That may very well be the basis of the judgement.

The accusation of illegitimacy is being levied at Harris because of her position, her political affiliation, and her skin color. There's no other reason for singling her out, or naming any one specific defendant in this case at all.

Those are three reasons you see. The primary one is the one being cited in the case. Position--VP.

If Biden's situation was contentious for the reasons provided in the suit, I'm sure he'd be a target as well, so I tend to agree with political affiliation.

Skin color is something you want to cling onto even if is truly beside the point.

The case is just another in a trend of seemingly frivolous suits that appear to be a series of poke testing the legal system for any form of exploits or holes.

 

[KageNinja]

According to BLM the statement "All Lives Matter" is racist.

 

[LumInvader]

Birthers sighting in Washington DC:

"Destroy the GOP!"
"Destroy the GOP!"
"Destroy the GOP!"

@0:48, watch the mindless sheeple boo Loeffler and Perdue after they're misleadingly described as RINOS.

Fact check: How often do Loeffler and Perdue vote along Trump's position?

David Perdue (R) 94.1%
Mitch McConnell (R) 93.5%
Kelly Loeffler (R) 91.7%
Lindsey Graham (R) 87.3%
Lisa Murkowski (R) 74.2%
Rand Paul (R) 70.4%
Susan M. Collins (R) 66.4%

Citation: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

 

[tabzer]

If Biden fell under the same contention, and was not listed in the same suit--it would lend evidence that Kamilla is being targeted because of her gender/color. But these aspects are so far removed from the claim itself that it looks ridiculous to insert "racism" as the issue of contention. The way forward is to adjudicate the term "natural-born citizen" to mean what you want it to mean, and be done with it.

 

[Xzi]

If Biden fell under the same contention, and was not listed in the same suit--it would lend evidence that Kamilla is being targeted because of her gender/color. But these aspects are so far removed from the claim itself that it looks ridiculous to insert "racism" as the issue of contention.

IIRC at least one of Trump's parents was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. And again, no such lawsuit was filed (by anybody, Republican or Democrat) when he was elected. The same was true of any number of past presidents who had one or more foreign citizens as parents.

There's also a slippery slope argument to be made here. If immigration in your family's history disqualifies you from holding public office, only Native Americans should legally be eligible to run.

 

[Joe88]

IIRC at least one of Trump's parents was not a US citizen at the time of his birth.

His mother became a us citizen in '42, trump was born in '46

 

[tabzer]

There's also a slippery slope argument to be made here. If immigration in your family's history disqualifies you from holding public office, only Native Americans should legally be eligible to run.

Like I said. Adjudicate what the definition of "natural born citizen" means.

But if Trump fit the contention and a charge was not brought against him by the Democrats, I'd find it to be ironic considering every other thing that was thrown at him.

But still, nothing about the suit is about racism. You are just dissatisfied with a negative potential outcome hanging out there (doubtful). The reaction to shout, "racism!" is a defense mechanism.

 

[Xzi]

But if Trump fit the contention and a charge was not brought against him by the Democrats, I'd find it to be ironic considering every other thing that was thrown at him.

The only things Democrats threw at him were consequences for his own actions, and much of the time they failed to do even that. He 100% deserved to be impeached, but I don't think the reasoning behind it was nearly as sound as it could have been.

But still, nothing about the suit is about racism. You are just dissatisfied with a negative potential outcome hanging out there (doubtful).

Lol no, I told you SCOTUS would decline to hear Texas' attempt to overturn the election, and I know they'll decline to hear this case too. That doesn't make the filing of the suit itself, or the singling out of the first POC vice president, any less disgustingly racist.

His mother became a us citizen in '42, trump was born in '46

Ah, guess I was mistaken.