Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Doran754]

Imagine thinking that not wanting people to spread misinformation and conspiracy theories is a "lefty" idea and that the spread of misinformation can't cause harm to someone else.

Or maybe we should talk to the family of victims from school shootings who were harassed and attacked after being called "Crisis actors" by people on the right and ask them how they feel about giving platforms to those that love to spread misinformation and conspiracy theories.

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First, Prager-U, just the amount of idiocy that site spews is absolutely hilarious.

Second, Maybe you would like to look at New Zealand for a moment, you know, a country that actually listened to scientists and medical professional on how to deal with this virus. I mean surely they are still under lockdown.....

Oh wait,, they aren't. In fact they recently had a stadium full of people recently with no masks or anything after they brought their cases to zero.

Imagine thinking everyone must be shut down and silenced. Youll have your echo chamber one day.

 

[SonowRaevius]

Imagine thinking everyone must be shut down and silenced. Youll have your echo chamber one day.

It amazes me how many words you love to put in others mouths.

Did I say everyone? No. I didn't.

But so far most of your arguments have boiled down to "lefty this" and "Lefty that" while spiraling down into hyperbole constantly.

Just for the record though, so it is perfectly clear, I only want misinformation and baseless conspiracy theories silenced because those actually lead to real world harm in some form or another or already have in some instances.

Feel free to believe in bullshit if you want, but don't fling it all over the place to others.

 

[notimp]

Or you could just ignore him, why must everyone be banned and shut down, he has no impact on your life. Put him on mute, dont need to constantly deplatform people. The left would get so much further if their defacto stance wasn't to ban literally anyone they disagree with.

No - because those propaganda memes are designed to pray on people who actually are lonely, and kind of not that bright.

You take the 'something is wrong - they are stealing the election' kickstarter your lovely president gave you. You add more fear, you add more anger, you separate the person this meme gets addressed to from any even partly reasonable explanation, by insisting 'this is bigger - listen to the presidents conspiracy explanation'.

You use an established 'enemy motive' ('communist bad guys'), to trigger nationalistic and 'emergency' thoughtpaths.

You target people, that actually feel alone and separated from others during the pandemic.

All the while you are feeding 'shock' and 'fear' in 20 seperate items yourself.

After that comes the message, which peters out to 'dont trust the other political side with anything' your life, or your psychological health - depends on it.

This has to stop.

"Ignoring it" - is what you'd want as the producer of that propaganda. Only lure in lonely desperate gamers that are losing their grip on reality.

This is what the person who has to be banned does in here.

Do you understand that?

Those memes are not jokes. This propaganda is written for a purpose. (Half of the comparisons dont even make sense, someone banked on emotional impact, and didnt even try to make sense. This is not a believe system, this is a 'are you dumb enough - to be that emotionally manipulated" check. To lure in more people into deranged thought systems, driven by fear, driven by agency (something has to be done, the communist plan!), prayed on by people who fake to offer them community and knowledge.

This has to stop.

Now.

 

[ghjfdtg]

I mean, anyone with a few brain cells will see how much bullshit this is (a dead object being communist? Seriously?). But i can see it working for people already deep enough into conspiracies (sadly a few here are). That shit should certainly not get spread.

 

[notimp]

Issue - now everything with the conspiracy label gets banned from online distribution?

No - benefit of the doubt. Actually looking at stuff, spelling things out...

All of this was null and void for our repeat offender for the tenth time.

This is not the first respective picture meme, sporting nothing but lies, he posts without any comment in here - this is probably the 100th.

Moderation in this forum is biased as heck, and only interacts - when they can threaten bans on people that are smarter than they are.


When they have real extrimism problems, the stay back and try to sit it out.

Worst community ever.

You have: Five people backing each other up on on the most horrible, entirely senseless propaganda possible.

Defending each other on principal - trying to delegitimize any claims of misconduct.

You have the moderator, that aids conspiracy narratives, by telling people - oh no - every election is rigged - using methods of forging ballots, it just matters by how much - which is BULL (If a method doesnt scale it incentivises people not to use it. If the ability for your method to work can not be guaranteed from one year to the next - no one is putting money into that.).

Everyone is claiming, they have forgotten, that manipulating people by propaganda (narratives) is a popular form of mass and vote manipulation as well. No no, forging individual ballots is the issue - PR is not!

Completely detached from reality. Here is a manipulation concept that works and scales throughout the years. Create a Propaganda outlet. Pray on people that for their life cant follow baselevel logic on anything. Feed them with fear. Feed them with hate. Lock them up in bubbles. Have them post propaganda memes, instead of engage in arguments. Use the dumbest 'villain image' you can find (communism). Bank on people that are dumb and have a Jesus complex most.

They will be so devoted - they'll literally make it their lives, trying to evangelize other people, refusing even the potential, that with everything they do, they hurt others, just like them. For life. Because if thats the case, that doesnt match up with their selfimage of 'warning people'.

Get payed for being able to mobilize those people by twitterposts.

Bonus: Trap them in media ecosystems, that only are based on outrage, fear and sensationalism. Have them pay for it.


This is from the idiots dream to riches playbook. Every moron, wants to set up 'an events circuit' - for a competitive videogame? For a collectible card game? Doesnt matter, as long as it gets you payed. Tell those people not to trust other media, you have the only news they ever need in your life.

Keep them without perspective, without hope, getting their endorphine rushes from narratives they internalize, that have them anticipate fear, based on a villain concept. Give them a candy for everytime they do so (literal indoctrination). Make them extremists. Have them flock out to gaming forums, posting your predesigned memes, with keywords, that lead them into certain bubbles.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AT LEAST ONE MODERATOR IN HERE, that condones this.

Then enforce silence - and let every single instance of this 'just wash over'.


You know something? You know when we reach the end of free speech? When organizers produce their own fear cults, drawing already suffering people into them, with promises of more tales of woe - and a bigger narrative of conspiracy, that only they can see..


And the best part of it? If we censor 'conspiracy' talk in general, we weaken democracy.

Let me think. hm... yes, I would like to finance that as an establishment guy. Please. Enter the state of the US - as of now.

Rumored 200 mio for a Trump media network? But I would gladly - just think of all the subscription fees!

And who thinks of all the people traped in those narratives?

This forum has a solution for it? 'Cant you just ignore it?'

 

[gregory-samba]

99% of the ballots have already been counted in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin. There is no path forward for Trump to overtake Biden's lead without providing evidence of widespread election fraud, which you already admitted there is none.

Biden's electoral victory becoming "official" is a mere formality at this point. Your argument amounts to nothing more than a formal waiting exercise, which is far too weak to support the haughty manner in which you responded.

Major media outlets have already called Biden the winner more than a week ago, including Fox News. Heads of state from around the world have already congratulated

You may call it a formality, but it’s the actual vote that decides who the next President is. I understand your side is claiming they won so it would go against the hive mind to think otherwise, but Biden is only projected to win at this point in time.

Once the Electoral College actually votes no one has won or lost. You also don’t know me or know how I’ll react when the final winner is chosen. I’ll simply state the facts which Biden is now the President Elect, but to state that right now would be lying.

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So @UltraSUPRA ’s MEMES get deleted, but @LumInvader ‘s don’t?

Gregory over here losing his mind because he doesn't understand how things work, LMAO.

No, you apparently don’t know how things work. There’s a vote that’s taken that decides who is the next President and that vote hasn’t happened yet. I’m also not losing my mind as I feel sorry for the majority here because they are being manipulated like sheep and all that comes out of their mouths is “bahhhhhhh”.

 

[Xzi]

Imagine thinking everyone must be shut down and silenced. Youll have your echo chamber one day.

> Bases his claims of voter fraud off of boomer memes on Facebook

> Accuses someone else of being in an echo chamber

LMAO

 

[Darth Meteos]

this should be renamed "conservative cope thread"

 

[notimp]

You may call it a formality, but it’s the actual vote that decides who the next President is. I understand your side is claiming they won so...

There are more than two sides on every story.

Your side is currently banking on pushing the declaration of the voting results to the end of time. Because as your side very well knows, its not the vote that decides the next President, its the poeople who announce the results of the vote.

Trump declared himself 'having won' states on twitter. By himself. No democratic agency, no media outlet, no narrative backing him at all.

You just claim something - thereby making it a reality others have to deal with.

This is manipulation.

 

[Xzi]

this should be renamed "conservative cope thread"

Mods, get on it. They're probably gonna need a couple hundred more pages to get out all the tears.

 

[Darth Meteos]

I'm curious, what do you think laws are? By definition they restrict you.

"laws are meant to restrict bad people and not me because i'm not bad people"

 

[djpannda]

ok.. I just died a little inside... Rudy is having a press conference and not only did he leak hair dye but now they are claiming Dominion is a Cuban and Venezuelan operation..headed by Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez.... reminder Hugo Chavez denied in 2013.. this MotherFer been died for almost 8 years from a broke destroyed nation.. but he was able to come back to life and create a million dollar company that has security clearance from multiple countries.

 

[gregory-samba]

There are more than two sides on every story.

Your side is currently banking on pushing the declaration of the voting results to the end of time. Because as your side very well knows, its not the vote that decides the next President, its the poeople who announce the results of the vote.

Trump declared himself 'having won' states on twitter. By himself. No democratic agency, no media outlet, no narrative backing him at all.

You just claim something - thereby making it a reality others have to deal with.

This is manipulation.

No, you misunderstand. You and the rest of the morons here think I'm stating that Biden hasn't won yet because I'm holding out for some miracle that would make Trump win. I'm pretty sure at this point in time that Biden is going to win and that's fine, society will continue to crumble into sin and perversion, but I have no reason to lie to myself or others that the electoral college voted for him. Until the electoral college votes Biden is not the President Elect. You can't tell the future nor can I, so it would be foolish me to call someone a winner before the actual voting takes place. You want to call it a formality, well it's a fucking really big ass formality. Plus you and everyone else's assumptions that I'm not lying like the rest of you because I think Trump could still win is not what I'm thinking.

 

[notimp]

this should be renamed "conservative cope thread"

And no - this is belittling the issue.

You have recruitment propaganda memes in here, aiming at getting people to hate 'the other side', or else they would be hurt more. Because there are parallels to 'communism', and the reason they (people that are adressed with this sh*t) are/would be socially isolated).

This is not coping.

This is attack propaganda. This is getting people into the worst kind of selfinflicted pain and suffering. Keeping them in those loops. Then cashing in on them -

This is 'we use the concept of democratic grass routs organizing' pervert it to the max - create our own pressure group based on outrage and fear based narratives - then design propaganda and spread it in vulnerable communities, until we are popular enough by shere interaction through outrage. Then we matter.

And the people who finance our efforts? Either have to actively want everyone to remain stupid as hell, or want to target people that can stick to emotionally crafted narratives for longer, without them causing any troubles. Make sure, they are really dumb. Make sure they are only driven by emotion. Make sure they never question authority. Make sure they are willing to recruit more marks, just for status.


And the funny thing? This is politics - when it concerns a topic, thats actually of interest to people. But you effing hack their attention systems. Fear, horror, conspiracy, enemy, fraud, outrage, they are stealing from you - now pay up on your subscription fee.

Worst cult - ever.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT people not being able to cope with a loss of Trump, this is about grifters using that narrative to sideline more people, push them into extremism, push them into echo chambers, devide them from their relatives and real world friends - take your 'political group as your daily supplement' - this is organizing. Around 'I dont want to wear a mask, I think the russians want me to'.

Just because you dont want to deal with this happening - doesnt mean it isnt - in this forum. Right here and now.

For how long are you willing to look away and condone it?

Are we now play acting normality - just to 'wish' it onto existence? This is something else.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

this should be renamed "conservative cope thread"

Don't act like you didn't do the same thing for four years when Trump get elected. Not only that, but there is actual proof of voter fraud this time.

 

[Darth Meteos]

This is attack propaganda.

Propaganda is pretty shit when it's something everyone is laughing at. Point and laugh at the idiots. Look at them clinging to obvious falsehoods just because they can't handle the truth. Not that the truth ever stopped them.

Don't act like you didn't do the same thing for four years when Trump get elected. Not only that, but there is actual proof of voter fraud this time.

Nah. I was pretty upset on election day, but I got over it. Imagine being this mad more than 2 weeks out

 

[djpannda]

Don't act like you didn't do the same thing for four years when Trump get elected. Not only that, but there is actual proof of voter fraud this time.

yea don't forget 4 years ago ..when me and SUPRA Were 10 years old... and never saw actual sunlight

 

[gregory-samba]

Issue - now everything with the conspiracy label gets banned from online distribution?

No - benefit of the doubt. Actually looking at stuff, spelling things out...

You see Liberals come up with code words like racist, homophobe, transphobic and now conspiracy theories that are used by their leaders to control them. Liberals will not look into things with certain labels. There's no logic, there's no valid thought process. There's just "it's labeled this way so we have to ignore it". It's all about control to the Liberal left. You have to fall in line and drink the politically correct stew, but just don't ever start to think for yourself. People who ignore Liberal labels and ask the tough questions are discarded because the Liberals need sheep not people that can think for themselves.

Don't act like you didn't do the same thing for four years when Trump get elected. Not only that, but there is actual proof of voter fraud this time.

The Liberal left still hasn't acknowledged that Trump is their legitimate President so I don't know why these idiots on this board like @Xzi are celebrating 'conservative tears' when their side still hasn't accepted the results of the 2016 election.

 

[smf]

It would be a major kick to the teeth if Trump got in after all of the fraud got exposed.

Trump also claimed he has won, someone is going to have a major kick in the teeth.

 

[Darth Meteos]

The Liberal left still hasn't acknowledged that Trump is their legitimate President so I don't know why these idiots on this board like @Xzi are celebrating 'conservative tears' when their side still hasn't accepted the results of the 2016 election.

The COPE
Look at this dude projecting onto liberals
Well, I'm not a liberal, mate, but I am a leftie.
Trump sure did win in 2016, he just did a lot of illegal shit since then, and I'm pretty happy he's gone.
Is that satisfactory?