Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Deleted User]

I've supported every claim I've made.

@monkeyman4412 knows it. Hates it, but knows it.

You have a lot of nerve directly mentioning me.
To speak bluntly, no you haven't at all.
I haven't seen you use any sources to back up any of your claims, Lacius has, I have, multiple people outside of us have.

You are right. I am skeptical of Ameica's democratic process. Vote fraud does happen (fact).

demonstration right here that you don't use sources, aka, no backup to your claim. Lacius and i have both used different articles that disproves this. You have no source, only your own words.

 

[CORE]

To be fair nobody even saw the Hussein part of his name, with Biden its literally right there.

Joe was merely Biden his time

 

[SG854]

Sure, but he also narrowly won the Electoral College and lost the popular vote, so it's not as impressive an accomplishment as just about any other presidential victory.

And, again, his salesmanship apparently wasn't good enough to win him a second term.

For the amount of people he got to rally behind him. He wasn't too far behind on the popular vote, 3% behind.

He may not have won the second term but did garner up alot of followers. Which is a big success for a sales man. Any video game console that is owned by 47% of people that own next gen consoles is a huge success for that company. Especially compared to the top competitor that is owned by 50% of people that own next gen consoles.

Since this is a winner takes all situation Trump didn't win but came damn close on the popular vote. He sold himself well only just barely missing the mark.

 

[omgcat]

Can I get a source?

sure!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/15/coronavirus-emerged-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-study-shows.html

also another source for those wary of NBC

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-emerged-italy-september-of-last-year-study-shows-2020-11

 

[Deleted User]

sure!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/15/coronavirus-emerged-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-study-shows.html

interesting, cool to know.

 

[KingVamp]

sure!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/15/coronavirus-emerged-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-study-shows.html

also another source for those wary of NBC

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-emerged-italy-september-of-last-year-study-shows-2020-11

I see. We also seem to got the worse version of the virus.

 

[SG854]

Let me fix that for you
Controversy sells, it gets people interested. And Trump is the master of controversy. He is a master CON MAN.

I think snake oil salesman is what you're looking for.

 

[Lacius]

For the amount of people he got to rally behind him. He wasn't too far behind on the popular vote, 3% behind.

He may not have won the second term but did garner up alot of followers. Which is a big success for a sales man. Any video game console that is owned by 47% of people that own next gen consoles is a huge success for that company. Especially compared to the top competitor that is owned by 50% of people that own next gen consoles.

Since this is a winner takes all situation Trump didn't win but came damn close on the popular vote. He sold himself well only just barely missing the mark.

Again, not a good enough salesman to win a second term. It wasn't even close.

 

[omgcat]

I see. We also seem to got the worse version of the virus.

we've got our own version of it as well, since it has mutated in Texas. whether it becomes more of a problem has yet to be seen though.

 

[Deleted User]

Your side doesn’t believe in God and doesn’t see any problem with sinning. Simply put, your side embraces evil.

So in your world Trump is god then? You don't see any sin he has committed? Surely gluttony would be under one of those deadly sins, or greed.
I seriously don't see how one can take such a stupid ideological extreme that any person that doesn't believe in god is evil. It's profoundly stupid.
One doesn't need to believe in god to want to be a good person. Define sin to me. I go to work, I protect the people around me to my ability by wearing a mask. I lower my chances of getting covid and preventing spread to love ones.
I have a depressed Significant other who I care for when they get suicidal. To give an idea of just how stupid your argument is. When I was five I found my neighbors wallet. Granted I had extreme innocents back then that I lost due to events. But I didn't believe in god back then, and I asked my mom who's wallet it was. I didn't consider the money in it, I was more intrigued someone dropped it and wanted to return it.
Character doesn't come from religion. People that believe that good character comes directly from religion are those who are either trying to actively lie to themselves because they know they are a bad person. Or someone who has lost touch with reality. Religion purposes ideals. But it doesn't mean that person follows them, and not all ideals purposed by a religion is good.
Consider Buddhism. Your not supposed to have sex. That is an ideal. Is it a good one? No. Just like how not having sex is absurd in our modern world. People being trans or gay was and still is a problem to extremely devote Christians. Which is absurd to believe that trans people don't exist, or gay. People who are trans or gay actively suffer under Christianity if their mother or father are. I've seen this happen from my eyes more than once from different families other than my own. The more devout those parents are, the worse off for the child.
What builds character is interactions between people, and how you handle them. The best people are those who want to put others forwards. The worst are those who refuse progress and those who think the world must stay still, refusing science refusing evidence that conflicts with your beliefs is part of that.
roles change, society changes, people change. What matters is the direction of that change. Does it continue other people's suffering? then it definitely means it's not good change.
I hope you enjoyed my little rant here.

 

[tabzer]

I have a running list of four or five things you claimed but never supported with any evidence. Nobody on this website should take you seriously.

Put up or shut up.

 

[SG854]

Again, not a good enough salesman to win a second term. It wasn't even close.

Yes it was close

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Again, not a good enough salesman to win a second term. It wasn't even close.

I'm a glass half full kinda person

You don't have to be number 1 to be considered an accomplished person. I consider 2nd, 3rd, top 10 to be very accomplished people. And I respect people that they even made it that far. You have to do more then average to make it that far.

 

[tabzer]

You have a lot of nerve directly mentioning me.
To speak bluntly, no you haven't at all.
I haven't seen you use any sources to back up any of your claims, Lacius has, I have, multiple people outside of us have.



demonstration right here that you don't use sources, aka, no backup to your claim. Lacius and i have both used different articles that disproves this. You have no source, only your own words.

Lol. What claim do I need to back up with a source when most claims I've made are about logical fallacies and inconsistencies wherein the source material is already provided? What contention of mine did you disprove with an internet publication? You are really lazy at proofing your own comments. Your memory is pretty bad too. Maybe it's just reading comprehension that's the underlying issue?

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Lacius and i have both used different articles that disproves this.

Are you disputing the fact that voter fraud can and does happen? Not even @Lavius would agree with that statement. That's how absurd that is. He won't try to publically shame you or anything. He loves his cheerleaders.

 

[tabzer]

Consider Buddhism. Your not supposed to have sex. That is an ideal. Is it a good one? No.

Of course @AmandaRose and @Lacius will tell you that you are wrong, because they care so much about honest representation and genuine understanding.

 

[Deleted User]

Lol. What claim do I need to back up with a source when most claims I've made are about logical fallacies and inconsistencies wherein the source material is already provided?

really. Okay then let's see.

If Trump wins the election, it would probably be because he demonstrates,"wide spread voter fraud" or perhaps by arresting all of his political opponents. I'm not really sure how the latter works. I have trouble believing Biden outperformed Obama. Your comment that we are talking about, is factually inaccurate on multiple accounts. The only way that is seemed relevant or true was by poking fun at the court cases being proof of something.

is this you debunking a logical fallacy? or is this you stating your opinion without a source.


Here's ap news who has called elections since 1848 showing who won the popular vote (google is merely using them as a source)

https://apnews.com/article/trump-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-cf3582a8741e36704cdf3510765eed15
here's trump retracing a major claim in pennsylvania
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...losing-court-he-keeps-losing-his-lawyers-too/
here's the Washington post talking about trump loosing lawyers and court cases.
Still not enough?
Then let's look at state officals who also say there wasn't widespread voter fraud
and it's not the first time I've supported my arguments.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html

What contention of mine did you disprove with an internet publication? You are really lazy at proofing your own comments. Your memory is pretty bad too. Maybe it's just reading comprehension that's the underlying issue?

what's wrong? In a twist and lashing out?
I merely mentioned that you have nerve talking to me. And here you now throwing not one, not two, but three ad hominiums. Commenting about my memory, reading comprehension and proofing. Truly impressive.
Oh and what have I disproved with internet publication?
We done this song and dance before hun.
Your argument of widespread voter fraud. We've done this song and dance that I've lost track. Though perhaps maybe you just forgot that we've done this song and dance multiple times.

Are you disputing the fact that voter fraud can and does happen? Not even @Lavius would agree with that statement. That's how absurd that is. He won't try to publically shame you or anything. He loves his cheerleaders.

Actually, he would, we both would. In fact, we already had a discussion about this. Voter fraud can and does happen. Though it's very often caught and evidence would be clear.
BUT the thing we positively wouldn't agree on, is WIDESPREAD voter fraud in this or previous elections in the states. Because there is more than enough proof that it didn't happen in this election. Look through my articles above.
If the courts are not having trumps lawsuits of voter fraud.
Then there is no voter fraud.
Now, are you disputing that there was widespread voter fraud?
Because you've done that multiple times.
"trump could win if there was widespread voter fraud"
Not in your own words exactly. But it is the argument you made.Multiple times over.


I also must ask, why do you care so much about U.S politics?
It's interesting, for someone who supposedly doesn't have a horse in the US. you definitely act like it considering your responses. If you didn't, you otherwise wouldn't have cared as much as you have about this thread.

 

[Joom]

Dunno if anyone has posted this yet, but here's some proof of internal voter fraud. (Un)ironically, it's from the Republicans.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...affensperger-lindsey-graham-elections-ballots

 

[KingVamp]

There's no ethical way for Trump to stay president.

 

[tabzer]

is this you debunking a logical fallacy? or is this you stating your opinion without a source.

It is a hypothetical example showing how Trump could still win the election. Add "hypothetical" to your vocabulary. Usually they start with the word "if".

what's wrong? In a twist and lashing out?

I merely mentioned that you have nerve talking to me. And here you now throwing not one, not two, but three ad hominiums.

"ad hominiums" are substitutes for arguments. In this case, you haven't established a reliable position against anything I've said--only against what you think my position is, and that would be a strawman if it were intentional. I genuinely think that you have reading comprehension issues due to being lazy.

Actually, he would, we both would. In fact, we already had a discussion about this. Voter fraud can and does happen.

Then why would I need an additional source? And why would you posit that there is something wrong with my statement if it is in agreement with what everyone has said?

BUT the thing we positively wouldn't agree on, is WIDESPREAD voter fraud in this or previous elections in the states. Because there is more than enough proof that it didn't happen in this election. Look through my articles above.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. That's a logical fault that both you and @Lacius are failing to acknowledge. Personally, I cannot verify the vote. It is not transparent--so even if you do appeal to authority, it does not gain my confidence.

If the courts are not having trumps lawsuits of voter fraud.
Then there is no voter fraud.

Contextual fail and logical fail. Truly this is a terrible set of comments. First, If you are addressing "widespread voter fraud" then say that. Don't be lazy and make objectively false statements. Second, even if you did mean "widespread voter fraud", then absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, Be careful. You might break people's brains with that amount of contradiction. People might stop thinking.

Now, are you disputing that there was widespread voter fraud?

I don't know if there was widespread voter fraud, and I'm not even sure what it fully entails in all possibilities. Can one actor commit widespread voter fraud? I believe "systemic vote fraud" is a better description of what Trump is positing of Dominion.

I also must ask, why do you care so much about U.S politics?
It's interesting, for someone who supposedly doesn't have a horse in the US. you definitely act like it considering your responses.

Most people here do not like, or are at least skeptical of Biden's relationship with China, and the implications it has on Japan's economy and sanctity. I'm more personally interested in seeing a better form of government emerge through these times.

 

[CompassNorth]

Thankfully Ajit Pai is going to lose his spot, hopefully the Biden administration can put someone who isn't afraid of the telecom companies. The fact that the government has been funding the ISPs to put high speed internet in rural America since the early 2000s and that still hasn't happened is ridiculous

 

[AmandaRose]

Of course @AmandaRose and @Lacius will tell you that you are wrong, because they care so much about honest representation and genuine understanding.

He is wrong buddhists are allowed to have sex

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/12/14/how-do-buddhists-have-sex-8249020/amp/