Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[Darth Meteos]

You think he'll start crying about being cancelled next?

muh freedom of speech

But more on topic, texas sure is quiet about wanting to secede during their historic blackout of their totally autonomous electric grid. Good thing biden isn't a total piece of shit and will get timely aid for texas instead of sitting there and doing fuck all like trump with the california fires.

trump would have helped texas
he ditched california because his base hates california almost as much as he does
but texas is good ol' murica

 

[Lacius]

You think he'll start crying about being cancelled next?

But more on topic, texas sure is quiet about wanting to secede during their historic blackout of their totally autonomous electric grid. Good thing biden isn't a total piece of shit and will get timely aid for texas instead of sitting there and doing fuck all like trump with the california fires.

Make sure you phrase it just like that. Put people's lives in danger, and the conservatives don't care, but cancel them, and they will go crazy. Well, except when they apply their own cancel culture and censure Republicans who voted to impeach Trump. Hm. I guess conservatives are just hypocrites. Nevermind.

 

[SG854]

Leftist are evil. One day a leftist left the toilet seat up at a McDonald's restroom and I fell in.

 

[Darth Meteos]

Hm. I guess conservatives are just hypocrites. Nevermind.

i must say, i'm shocked
the idea of a republican compromising their beliefs for political power is unthinkable

 

[smf]

Discussing the left's gradual decline into the extreme based on their level of support towards specific policies as viewed through the lens of the last three presidencies is perfectly on-topic, and hardly raises an eyebrow.

That comes across as quite butt hurt.

Make sure you phrase it just like that. Put people's lives in danger, and the conservatives don't care, but cancel them, and they will go crazy. Well, except when they apply their own cancel culture and censure Republicans who voted to impeach Trump. Hm. I guess conservatives are just hypocrites. Nevermind.

It shouldn't be a surprise, republicans are sociopathic. If they had any insight into their personality then they would realise why their opinion is wrong.

 

[Darth Meteos]

That comes across as quite butt hurt.

1+1=2

 

[Deleted User]

1+1=2

No it cannot be,
It, it's it's.
logic
the worst possible enemy

 

[Lacius]

No it cannot be,
It, it's it's.
logic
the worst possible enemy

Republicans care about math. Well, except when a Republican is president and they control the deficit. Sorry, nevermind.

 

[SG854]

Republicans care about math. Well, except when a Republican is president and they control the deficit. Sorry, nevermind.

Republicans care about science.

It snows so global warning isn't real.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Republicans care about science.

It snows so global warning isn't real.

If global warming's real, then why is it cold outside? Checkmate, snowflakes

 

[Lacius]

Republicans care about science.

It snows so global warning isn't real.

I was never more convinced of anything in my life when James Inhofe brought that snowball onto the floor of the Senate. Such a deliberative body. Truly the place where intelligent discourse occurs. It must be preserved.

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If global warming's real, then why is it cold outside? Checkmate, libtards

If systemic racism exists, then why haven't I seen it?

Also, you missed a great opportunity to say "checkmate, snowflakes."

 

[SG854]

If global warming's real, then why is it cold outside? Checkmate, lizards

There corrected it for you. It's all the illuminati.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Also, you missed a great opportunity to say "checkmate, snowflakes

Wdym? That's what it says

 

[Lacius]

Wdym? That's what it says

Hey, only the conservatives are allowed to gaslight.

 

[Plasmaster09]

Hey, only the conservatives are allowed to gaslight.

We are allowed to gaslight. We were always allowed to gaslight. We were always at war with Eastasia. Jake Angeli was always an antifa plant. There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

 

[SG854]

Hey, only the conservatives are allowed to gaslight.

They was a reason for invading middle eastern countries. They needed all that GASlight they can obtain to own libtards like you.

 

[KingVamp]

Make sure you phrase it just like that. Put people's lives in danger, and the conservatives don't care, but cancel them, and they will go crazy. Well, except when they apply their own cancel culture and censure Republicans who voted to impeach Trump. Hm. I guess conservatives are just hypocrites. Nevermind.

Is Trump a religion?

Republicans care about math.

Only when giving the rich even more tax cuts.

 

[Foxi4]

give me an example
you just said

what specific policies

EDIT: and while you're at it

explain that, too
what do you mean
what decline, in what way

I already gave you two - public healthcare options and immigration policy. When Barack Obama took office, his idea of policing the border was continuing with the previous programs of erecting physical barriers in the form of fencing (128 additional miles were constructed, if I recall). This idea had wide-spread support among Democrats, including big names like Schumer and Feinstein who supported the act. This position has reversed completely under Trump. The same can be said about other policies surrounding immigration - President Obama is the president of DACA, but he was also keen on deportation. Approximately 2.5 million people were removed from the country between 2009 and 2015 via immigration orders. This idea, again, has completely reversed - now the talking point on the left is "Abolish ICE", which is an extreme position.

The same can be said about law enforcement. President Joe Biden started his career as the "tough on crime" mastermind behind the 1994 Crime Bill. In fact, it was one of his crowning achievements, it was created with input from minority community leaders who were concerned about a drug epidemic in their neighbourhoods. Both positions are reversed also - we regularly hear calls to "defund the police" and the prevailing opinion among Americans is that perhaps legalisation of some, at least "soft" drugs is in fact the answer here. Defunding the police is an extreme position - Michigan learned that first-hand as they recently "refunded" the police due to a sudden spike in violent crime. Legalisation I can roll with - I'm all for people being responsible for their own choices, even those that are self-destructive.

In terms of healthcare, President Obama advertised ACA by saying that "you can keep your doctor", it was created with both a public and a private sector in mind - private for those who can afford it, public for those who cannot. This is not adequate anymore - the core concept behind Medicare for All is a universal, public healthcare system for all citizens with the private option pushed to the side and concerned with elective surgeries, if not obliterated altogether, depending on which plan of some of the 2020 primary frontrunners you look at.

Just a few months ago Joe Biden happily proclaimed that he owns "a shotgun" (even though he doesn't know how to use it as I distinctly remember him saying that one should blast potential home invaders through a closed door or discharge firearms into the air indiscriminately to scare intruders, both being highly irresponsible) and isn't interested in attacking the 2nd Amendment. Come to find out, the administration is working on *another* "assault weapons ban". Oh, and who did Joe want to put in charge of gun control? Beto O'Rouruke, the man who gleefully supported gun *confiscation* from the debate stage. That's another reversal, in my mind. Nevermind the fact that these new policy prescriptions concern rifles - the least-used weapon in terms of homicide. The single type of firearm responsible for the majority of deaths on American streets is the handgun, but the administration won't tackle those as anything short of a national arms registry would be inadequate in tracking each and every one - there's simply far too many, so the good old AR will be the scapegoat du jour instead, at least for now.

These are just some examples, but there are plenty, really. Of course not all of those new positions are bad - in fact, I support some of them, to an extent. Some of them can also be explained by the nature of progressivism - it "progresses" with no clear end goal, however there's a line between what is a sensible measure and what is an extreme one. You can, in fact, progress "too far" and forget what exactly you were trying to fix in the first place.

I'm quite happy to support my positions as long as the discussion is civil and to-the-point. My point, in case the hyperbole was too difficult to digest, is that the increased reliance of government and obsessing over personality instead of substance is detrimental to political discourse. Jumping up in arms at the first sign of criticism is cult-like behaviour to me, or government worship. That might be a rough term to some, but that doesn't affect any of the key takeaways.

 

[smf]

This position has reversed completely under Trump.

So you're saying Trump copied Obama and is upset that he didn't get the same response?

There are some differences in the policy and there are differences in the execution of the policy. If Trump wasn't so in need of reassurance all the time that he goes to rallies getting people to shout his catchphrases back at him, then he probably would have had it easier.

But this whole brash attitude just rubs people up the wrong way, it's self sabotaging. Unfortunately he thinks it's some kind of killer move. But it only works against stupid people.

Trump trying to steal an election by lying about fraud is the last straw, in whatever way possible the man has to basically not exist any more. It's his own fault, he asked for it.

 

[Foxi4]

So you're saying Trump copied Obama and is upset that he didn't get the same response?

There are some differences in the policy and there are differences in the execution of the policy. If Trump wasn't so in need of reassurance all the time that he goes to rallies getting people to shout his catchphrases back at him, then he probably would have had it easier.

But this whole brash attitude just rubs people up the wrong way, it's self sabotaging. Unfortunately he thinks it's some kind of killer move. But it only works against stupid people.

We're not talking about Trump here - Trump is not in office. This entire exchange started because I made a claim that the policies on the left side of the aisle are increasingly slipping and that, had he ran today on the same program, someone like Barack Obama wouldn't be considered a left-wing starlet, but rather a moderate Republican, and I see those kinds of opinion pieces pop up in major publications nowadays. I also said that progressives treat their ideologues as idols who can do no wrong and require 24/7 worship so as to prevent them from being "smeared" online, and pointed out that the increased reliance on government guidance or support in all walks of life looks like a religion, *to me*. That caused quite a stir and I was asked to clarify which policies exactly I meant, so I provided some more context on what has changed on the left in the last 10-20 years - quite a lot, actually. I don't necessarily expect that to be productive, but I always aim to please - I wouldn't offer rides on my back otherwise.