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Lacius

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Yeah, it's an absurdly shitty take by our dear moderator there. If you're an asshole, folks aren't going to want you around, simple as that. It's skirting towards the usual "cancel culture" argument, which does zero to take into account the basic concept of consequences.
Whether or not Sarah Huckabee Sanders should be cancelled (she should) is irrelevant to the Trump-instigated insurrection at the Capitol.

Freedom to engage in deplorable behavior doesn't free one from the societal consequences.
 

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normally i wouldn't have expected such a blazing shitshow to be lit by an admin, but look at the world we live in
Democrats have been sowing dangerous rhetoric for the last four years. Nothing I saw today was news to me, but it will be news to many people who don't follow politics as closely. Trump will be acquitted, he didn't incite anyone to do anything. Don't minimise the damage done here - it's not at all about the word "fight". When Waters told her supporters to harass Republicans in the streets because "they're not welcome" or when Pressley said that "there should be unrest in the streets as long as there is unrest in our lives", those weren't ambiguous statements, those were "dog whistles" in Democrat parlance, and this is the first time some Americans will hear that. I have *zero* doubt that right-wingers were harassed as a consequence of this kind of rhetoric - in fact, I have evidence that they were. Rand Paul was berated while just trying to have a meal, so was Ted Cruz and his wife. Sarah Huckabee Sanders was straight up asked to leave by the proprietor of Red Hen just because she was part of the Trump admin. It's very clear to me which side is sowing division, and has been for a very long time by demonising their opposition at every available opportunity.
i mean, just look at this desperate brick of text, this ramble from a guy under obvious brainwashing

Democrats have been sowing dangerous rhetoric for the last four years.
trump was a fascist
the mental gymnastics required to see nothing wrong with trump and everything wrong with the people going "looks like corruption" is frankly impressive to me in a sick way
nice work

Trump will be acquitted, he didn't incite anyone to do anything.
wrong, proven wrong so many times this is wasted space

When Waters told her supporters to harass Republicans in the streets because "they're not welcome"
they aren't welcome because you guys are against the way of life we've clawed our way into over the last seventy years
constant racist "dog whistle", constantly undermining the lower classes, constantly obstructing things a vast majority of the american people want
you guys are collaborating with enemies of the people

or when Pressley said that "there should be unrest in the streets as long as there is unrest in our lives", those weren't ambiguous statements, those were "dog whistles" in Democrat parlance, and this is the first time some Americans will hear that.
mate, democratic parlance is some hillary clinton shit
you're think of leftist parlance
and "unrest" in leftist parlance means to protest the police murdering people
it must be agonizing being so fucking stupid

I have *zero* doubt that right-wingers were harassed as a consequence of this kind of rhetoric
we can only hope

Rand Paul was berated while just trying to have a meal, so was Ted Cruz and his wife. Sarah Huckabee Sanders was straight up asked to leave by the proprietor of Red Hen just because she was part of the Trump admin.
i love how when gays were being kicked out of restaurants, it was their "right to refuse," but now it's happening to you you're having a big sook

in conclusion, trump was a liar who grifted you
everyone sees it except you
we're laughing at you
die mad about it
 

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normally i wouldn't have expected such a blazing shitshow to be lit by an admin, but look at the world we live in

i mean, just look at this desperate brick of text, this ramble from a guy under obvious brainwashing


trump was a fascist
the mental gymnastics required to see nothing wrong with trump and everything wrong with the people going "looks like corruption" is frankly impressive to me in a sick way
nice work


wrong, proven wrong so many times this is wasted space


they aren't welcome because you guys are against the way of life we've clawed our way into over the last seventy years
constant racist "dog whistle", constantly undermining the lower classes, constantly obstructing things a vast majority of the american people want
you guys are collaborating with enemies of the people


mate, democratic parlance is some hillary clinton shit
you're think of leftist parlance
and "unrest" in leftist parlance means to protest the police murdering people
it must be agonizing being so fucking stupid


we can only hope


i love how when gays were being kicked out of restaurants, it was their "right to refuse," but now it's happening to you you're having a big sook

in conclusion, trump was a liar who grifted you
everyone sees it except you
we're laughing at you
die mad about it
Oh yeah, this guy (Foxi4) did hypocritically argue that businesses should have the legal right to refuse service to gay people, people of color, etc.
 

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Oh yeah, this guy (Foxi4) did hypocritically argue that businesses should have the legal right to refuse service to gay people, people of color, etc.
i didn't know that, but it was a pretty safe bet
can't believe i got baited into an effortpost, going back into hibernation
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-impeachment-trial-defense-dems-case-gregg-jarrett

Trump 2024 justice. Don't worry he will fix all the shit biden has already fuc*ed up
  1. The article is an opinion piece from Faux News, not a news article.
  2. The Trump defense was notably awful, and pretty much everybody knows it regardless of where they fall on the issue of impeachment. Even Trump wasn't happy with it.
  3. Biden hasn't fucked anything up.
did anyone get their 2k yet?
Americans have already gotten the first $600, and the remaining $1,400 should be coming once the bill is passed and signed. The Democrats are also raising the child tax credit an additional $1,000-$1,600 (depending on the child's age) per child, which is awesome. Everything is going quite smoothly so far, despite Republican obstructionism. The Democrats are doing a great job. Don't you agree? :)
 

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Eh, none of this stuff is going to stick. We now live in a world where everything is recorded and documented in HD. Not just everything Trump said/wrote, but also every other currently-serving politician. You take ALL of that from the last 4 years and sift through it with a fine-tooth comb, you will find more than a few enraged/violent statements, from both sides. Once you have that, all you need to do is say "But what about..."

Certainly more extreme, but just look at what ended up happening to those bastards pulling the strings in the IRA: nothing. They were careful to never be the ones pulling the trigger, and the same is true here.

All that being said, if he's pissed off just the right people, just enough, they'll nab him 4-5 years from now on some bullshit charge like tax evasion, just like they did with Al Capone.
 
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did anyone get their 2k yet?

already got mine.

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  1. The article is an opinion piece from Faux News, not a news article.
  2. The Trump defense was notably awful, and pretty much everybody knows it regardless of where they fall on the issue of impeachment. Even Trump wasn't happy with it.
  3. Biden hasn't fucked anything up.
Americans have already gotten the first $600, and the remaining $1,400 should be coming once the bill is passed and signed. The Democrats are also raising the child tax credit an additional $1,000-$1,600 (depending on the child's age) per child, which is awesome. Everything is going quite smoothly so far, despite Republican obstructionism. The Democrats are doing a great job. Don't you agree? :)

best part is new language was added to the bill and no taxes have to be paid for unemployment with the $300 or $400 per week stimulus. my wife will be getting 219+400 per week til the end of august, after 11 weeks of 219 + 300. and it's all tax free. easiest tax free 20k we've ever made, thanks dems! and to jog peoples memory, the CARES act was written for the most part by dems and had $600 per week for 16 weeks last year which my wife also got.

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trump is fucked anyways, it takes a simple majority (48 dems, 2 independents + VP harris) to disqualify. even if trump isn't "convicted" he will never be able to run for office again. using the 14th amendment also only takes a simple majority, so that can be used as well.
 
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you will find more than a few enraged/violent statements, from both sides. Once you have that, all you need to do is say "But what about..."
So your logic is
"well both sides is bad. so anything about Trump is what about ism"
despite the fact that he was the one who incited it, with a few fellow peers. He constantly talked about widespread election fraud, he constantly stoked the flames that democrats are out to take your votes through voter fraud. He told them he would be there with them, he asked them to be there two weeks early (as in advance). And even though despite all the evidence, court rulings and the information presented there. He continued to spread that misinformation up to the day of the insurrection/riot. And then, when they break into the captial, he adresses them as "very special people, we love you"
no. You don't. you don't treat people who are screaming and yelling to kill leaders like that.
This goes far beyond acceptable. And if we let him off the hook, not only can it repeat with someone else
we wouldn't be able to do much about it.
 
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So your logic is
"well both sides is bad. so anything about Trump is what about ism"
despite the fact that he was the one who incited it, with a few fellow peers. He constantly talked about widespread election fraud, he constantly stoked the flames that democrats are out to take your votes through voter fraud. He told them he would be there with them, he asked them to be there two weeks early. And even though despite all the evidence, court rulings and the information presented there. He continued to spread that misinformation up to the day of the insurrection/riot. And then, when they break into the captial, he adresses them as "very special people, we love you"
no. You don't. you don't treat people who are screaming and yelling to kill leaders like that.
This goes far beyond acceptable. And if we let him off the hook, not only can it repeat with someone else
we wouldn't be able to do much about it.
fun bonus fact: asserting that calling one side bad is whataboutism because both sides are bad... IS BASICALLY THE PUREST FORM OF WHATABOUTISM, LOOPING IN ON ITSELF LIKE AN AUTOFELLATING OUROBOROS OF BULLSHIT!
 

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He does it for free
interesting name considering i've only ever seen you lose

fun bonus fact: asserting that calling one side bad is whataboutism because both sides are bad... IS BASICALLY THE PUREST FORM OF WHATABOUTISM, LOOPING IN ON ITSELF LIKE AN AUTOFELLATING OUROBOROS OF BULLSHIT!
what about biden though
L I B E R A L S D E S T R O Y E D
 
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already got mine.

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best part is new language was added to the bill and no taxes have to be paid for unemployment with the $300 or $400 per week stimulus. my wife will be getting 219+400 per week til the end of august, after 11 weeks of 219 + 300. and it's all tax free. easiest tax free 20k we've ever made, thanks dems! and to jog peoples memory, the CARES act was written for the most part by dems and had $600 per week for 16 weeks last year which my wife also got.

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trump is fucked anyways, it takes a simple majority (48 dems, 2 independents + VP harris) to disqualify. even if trump isn't "convicted" he will never be able to run for office again. using the 14th amendment also only takes a simple majority, so that can be used as well.
your wrong bout disqualification saddly he needs to have an conviction first then they can disquallify him, but say if trump goes to prison for his various financial crimes he might win the election but he cant hold office due to the 25th amendment stating a president cannot be impeded (unable) to hold office due to incompasitation (since he is in the big house he cant hold office) soo the VP gets the hot seat automaticly then theres the fact he could instantly pardon trump unless the pardon power is moddified through an amendment cause of trump's gross abuse of pardons
 
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McCarthy is literally begging Trump to call off his supporters during the deadly Capitol riot, and Trump gleefully turned him down.
Catch 22. I would do the exact same thing - I'm not going to "call off" anyone, that would be equivalent to taking ownership of the mob. Trump explicitly invited the crowd to peacefully protest, he repeatedly mentioned that he wants to see no violence and that everyone present should show respect of the law and law enforcement officers. The moment he "calls off" a violent crowd that he didn't even incite in the first place, people like you are going to call that crowd his "troopers" and say that he's commanding them. The same thing happened with the "stand down" nonsense. Let's not pretend that this isn't a "damned if he does, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" sort of situation, his opposition will always find something to complain about.

Oh yeah, this guy (Foxi4) did hypocritically argue that businesses should have the legal right to refuse service to gay people, people of color, etc.
A business should absolutely have the right to refuse anyone for any reason, I did argue that. I also argued that doing so is stupid and exposes the owner's bigotry. I specifically said that it's bad business practice that, in the long run, opens to doors to competition picking up the slack or even outperforming the bigoted estsblishment. Of course you'll neglect to mention that because lying by omission is easier and sometimes slips through the cracks. Sadly for you, I'm eagle-eyed. Discrimating against another person on the basis of their innate characteristics or personal beliefs is reprehensible in this context, however the ability to do so is an integral element of freedom of association. Red Hen owners are more than welcome to ask anyone to leave their establishment and I, as an observer, can criticise them for doing so, and make subsequent decisions on that basis as a potential customer.
 
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