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  1. Xzi

    Xzi GBAtemp's Resident Plok Expert
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    You're correct here. However, Trump implicitly and explicitly politicized both mask wearing and the science behind the vaccine. Which is the reason why far more of his supporters died off from the pandemic than liberals, and the reason why so many of them are still hesitant to get the vaccine now. Of course, Trump quietly got vaccinated himself in January, and didn't quietly announce his support of getting vaxxed until two or three months later.

    Neither president gets credit for the vaccine, that's moronic. Biden only gets credit for the vaccine distribution because he's been in charge of the vast majority of it.

    There's been some bad to the Biden presidency for sure, I won't pretend otherwise, but all this really tells you is that a pile of dog shit would've made a better president than an ex-reality TV star. Almost the entirety of Biden's first hundred days was spent fixing or undoing shit that Trump broke or fucked up, because he had turned the presidency into one giant pyramid/MLM scheme. So yes, he gets a pass on some stuff from liberals, and a pass on everything from neoliberals, but not from me.
     
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  2. Louse

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    i feel that this is more a problem with platform. there are almost no leftist media groups/sites (no, breadtube doesnt count), so you just see bindo boot-lickers on liberal news and media or tuckster and the foxy friends on conservative stuff
    even if trump is far more deplorable than biden, i still think both of them are worthy of criticism. you just dont see that on libtard news cuz they're getting pretty much exactly what they want.
    same deal with trump, no criticism from cons media no matter what dumpo did. they either didnt care, or actively profited off the omission and reworking of information

    communist news network when volvo?
     
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  3. JonhathonBaxster

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    You're wrong about him politicizing mask wearing, new tech (such as UV stuff that we see everywhere now), the vaccines or things like drugs that can treat or help with the symptoms. Trump would simply state something and then the Liberal left would attack whatever it is Trump had to say. It turned into a political shit show because the Left had to attack Trump's every word and action, including the two months they completely ignored the virus and claimed Trump was racist for acting and were in favor of impeachment over the virus. If the Left would have worked with Trump's administration there would have been less death.

    Trump cut the bureaucratic red tape and hindering scientific restrictions that were in place to speed up the development of the various vaccines that were created in the USA. The Liberals themselves including their coveted scientists were all over social media before he made changes stating we won't see a vaccine for years. Trump not only allowed for fast tracking the development, but his initial distribution plans are what Biden based his current actions on.

    I see your hatred for Trump blinds you to the truth, so I won't spend much time on your comments here, but Biden is doing a bunch of exactly what Trump did and he doesn't get attacked from the main stream media or the Liberal social media for doing so. Remember, every single death from COVID-19 was Trump's fault and then suddenly when Biden takes office that's not how they treated him. The double standards, hypocrisy and misplaced hatred from people like yourself are reasons why it's really hard to take anything the Liberal left says or does with any real in-depth thought or concern.

    Heck, it's like taking 1 instance of rioting from the Right with more concern then the 1,000+ instances of rioting on the left that were completely ignored. :blink:
     
  4. Xzi

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    Bullshit, his supporters got the message loud and clear. Hell, Biden only won Georgia because so many Republicans died of the virus.

    Which is the bare minimum that any president in his shoes would've been expected to do. And were any of the vaccines actually created in America? I know the Pfizer one was created in Germany by Turkish immigrants, not sure about the others.

    Trump also disbanded the federal pandemic response team in year one of his presidency, because of course he did.

    What else do you expect, Trump botched the response to the pandemic from the get-go. Biden was just the one called in to clean up the botched response, all he could do is rollout the vaccine as quick as possible, which he did. He can't take us back in time before exponential spread had begun, and before Trump ensured his own supporters would be the ones to suffer most from this virus.
     
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  5. BitMasterPlus

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    People die from other causes than just covid. People treat covid as if it's the first human disease to ever exist, when there are worse diseases people die from every day. If covid wouldn't have killed them, something else might've.

    Besides, you only die from covid if you're incredibly unhealthy, like being morbidly obese, being incredibly old, having 16 other diseases inside you, or other causes like car accidents but they'll count it as covid if it was in your system when you died in the car crash.
     
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  6. PiracyForTheMasses

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    Fake news much? You obviously do not watch conservative news. One example of Fox, specifically Tucker Carlson criticizing Trump is when Soleimani was taken out. One example is all that is needed to destroy your narrative.
     
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  7. Xzi

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    No, it's not the first pandemic the world or the US has ever seen, but that just makes it all the more pathetic that we weren't better prepared for it. The Trump administration's "worst case scenario" was 200K dead by the end of the pandemic, and 500K were dead before the grifter was even out of office.

    This is simply a combination of bullshit and wishful thinking. Even if COVID doesn't kill you, and it has killed people as young as 16, the odds of picking up long-lasting symptoms are not great.

    Conspiratorial nonsense. If anything we're under-counting COVID deaths, as home deaths don't tend to be added to the official tolls until much later. A University of Washington study estimates there have been more than 900,000 COVID deaths in the US already.
     
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    What the hell? People owning the means of production in a socialist ideology? Have you ever read Marx?
    Private property (people owning the means of production) is capitalism.
    In socialism everything is owned by the state.
    This is bare basic elementary school economy.
    You are literally swapping the meanings.
    How can I even take you serious if you fail at the very basic idea behind socialism vs capitalism?


    Socialism is a dictatorship, Marx himself called it that. There's nothing democratic there, stop calling it names that don't apply and actually read a damn book about socialism from the people that created it. Crocodiles aren't flying creatures no matter how much your imagination wants them to be.

    The typical "it has never been achieved" fallacy. It's been achieved, countless times already, and it always fails cause there's a big difference between reality and idealism. It might work if every human being ever were mindless robots and everyone was an exact carbon copy (same knowledge, same potential, same phisique, same tastes, same thoughts and ideas, etc). Like I said, crocodiles don't fly no matter how much you want them to. People are different, they have different potentials, not everyone is Einstein, not everyone is Bezos, not everyone is Ussain Bolt. In communism you'd cut off Messi's legs so that everyone can be just as good as him in football, see why that doesn't work? It goes against how we as a society work.
    "It's neven been done right because I wasn't the one doing it. If I was the one to do it then I'd be extremely succesful and everyone will be perfect and happy" <- There's a name for that: egomaniacs (which perfectly suits with every communist leader and follower).

    You mean like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che and every other communist leader? Or do you really believe that Kim Yong Un was an NBA superstar?
    You mean like how every communist regime is divided between "those who rule" and "those who are ruled"? And those who rule are above the law.
    You mean like how all communist regimes segregated between race, sexual preference and gender?
    According to Che Guevara black people are black because they don't like to take baths and they are poor because they spend all their money on alcohol, parties and drugs. He also built forced labor camps for homosexuals because he firmly believed that "hard work will make a man out of them".
    Why am I applying fascist ideologies to communism? Oh that's right, they are twin brothers of the same ideological roots that is socialism.

    Except when nazi germany was absorved by the soviet union so was the fascist ideology absorved into communism.
    Fascism and communism are two (not that different) ways of applying the same theoretical background (socialism).

    The simple fact that both Mussolini and Hitler called themselves socialists (and they both started their political carreer in a socialist party), the simple fact that fascism applies socialist ideas (goverment controls and owns means of production, very limited private property if any, expropriations, censorship, media control, etc), the simple fact that all fascist leaders wrote countless books explaining why they are socialists, the simple fact that the Nazi party's full name was National Socialist Workers Party, the simple fact that all historians, history books and accounts from the era point to this yet you still continue to deny it just means you are probably the most dense person to ever write anything down in this site.

    The fight between fascism and communism is not about "left or right", it's more like the two bastard sons of a King (Socialism) fighting each other to inherit the throne.


    Just to finish it off, a few key points:

    - Fidel Castro (a Communist dictator) was a big fan of Francisco Franco (a Fascist dictator).
    - All Fascists were against democracy and capitalism. Why do you think they attacked west europe and the US?
    - From the point of view of fascism, democratic capitalist countries are the right wing. So be very careful when you use the term "extreme right" to refer to capitalism, as that was coined by none other than Nazi Germany. In a democracy, "extreme right" refers to absolute monarchy, while both fascism and communism would be "extreme left", all of which are outside the scope of a democracy due to their totalitarian nature.

    Grab a god damn history book and learn about fascism/nazism and WWII and stop copy-pasting whatever you hear from people who have never done so.
     
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  9. 64bitmodels

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    lol, good
    america sucks ass anyways
     
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    I can't believe people would say america sucks, we're a free country, we watch what we want, we do what we want, we see who we want, we go to where we want or need to, and in other places you wouldn't have the same freedoms we have here in the usa and I just am very concerned with how people act
     
  12. Xzi

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    Lol do you really believe the US is the only country on Earth with those (very basic) freedoms? This is the same propaganda people would spread half a century ago, and it wasn't true then either.
     
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    Gay people literally could not marry just a couple of years ago.
     
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    Except more people voted for Hillary, maybe not more people that you know but then you don't know everyone.

    You're not playing the game properly. You're supposed to pick a president based on the color of their party and then twist your thinking so that you always support them, no matter what bat crazy shit they spout.

    Hmm, it seems I am not playing the game properly either ;-)

    How are you doing mentally?

    What country have you traveled to that is less free than the USA?
     
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  15. Darth Meteos

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    Dude, you're not correct. I'm sorry, but your understanding of the topics is flawed, and I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore. I hope you can learn a bit more about the things you purport to be against, because you can't effectively combat something you don't understand.

    As a side note, I find this to be particularly hilarious, being that my occupation is that of a history teacher.
     
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    Because lord knows getting dicked up the ass or rubbing tacos just wasn't the same without getting a marriage certificate was a big humanitarian crisis.
     
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    I think it says more about you than gay people that you characterize loving relationships as being purely sexual before the law dropped. You're kind of a terrible person, and it's concerning. Please consider seeking professional help.
     
  18. BitMasterPlus

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    You being a teacher of any kind doesn't excuse you for being an ignorant fuck. Most teachers are corrupt cocksuckers who are ruining education in the US and you are the prime example on why we need massive education reform in the US.

    People, use this person as an example on why you should be afraid of the current education system and why you need to get involved with your kids studies as to not get indoctrinated. I don't want to pick fights here, but it's people like you why our future generations are gonna get fucked.

    Another example of projection. No, YOU'RE the horrible person. Actual poison being injected through the eye sockets would still be less painful than reading your posts.
     
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    It is my honor to ensure that a few kids escape the indoctrination of their parents and learn something about the world beyond the horribly limited and propaganda-infused understanding of their parents. I have centuries of study and understanding at my back when I teach. You have Louder with Crowder. It is my opinion that you are not being served as well as I am.

    I repeat, please consider seeking professional help.
     
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    No but it is a huge discrimination from a citizen point of view: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_and_responsibilities_of_marriages_in_the_United_States

    Also, if you marry someone just because you have sex with them, boy, you are going to get disappointments in life.
     
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