Japan's Unfair Competition Law Amended. Save Editing now illegal.

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  1. Emenaria

    Emenaria GBAtemp Regular

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    This news is twisted. It's not like you can get caught for modifying your own save files/consoles.
    These are what's been made illegal.
    - Distribution of tools and programs for modifying game saves
    - Selling product keys and serials online without the software maker's permission
    - Game save and console modding services
    As such, sales of products such as Pro Action Replay and Cybergadget's "Save editor" have been discontinued.
    Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/abqpqo/save_game_editors_and_console_modding_services/
    http://www2.accsjp.or.jp/activities/2018/pr6.php
     
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  2. KingVamp

    KingVamp Haaah-hahahaha!

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    Well, that still doesn't sound good overall.
     
  3. Bladexdsl

    Bladexdsl ZOMG my posts...it's over 9000!!!

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    only in japan...
     
  4. DKB

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    damn japan just got nae'd nae'd
     
  5. Burai-ha

    Burai-ha GBAtemp Regular

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    So a mistranslation is now enough to turn a democratic country into a dictatorship. Wow.
     
  6. kuwanger

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    It sounds less like a mistranslation to me and more like there's wording that's meant to be specific but is still incredibly vague: "the act of illegally obtaining specialized data provided by a partner who manages it in tandem with an ID or password has been newly positioned as an unfair business practice". From the wording, it'd apply as much to Facebook tracking users based on embedded Google IDs or the reverse. Really, the second an ID or password is involved, it sounds like any third party access not authorized would be illegal. Of course, this is going off yet another person's translation and legalize is like its own separate language. The notion that Japan wouldn't mean the worse interpretation because it's absurd ignores that even the US has pushed absurdly broad laws (DMCA) and then de facto not enforced it everywhere. Yet, even today we're having the problem that a coffee maker are trying to ban 3rd party refillable cups using the DMCA.
     
  7. Jokey_Carrot

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    just because you paid for it doesn't mean it's yours, said absolutely no one
     
  8. LightyKD

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    The whole, not being able to sell game keys is bull shit. Not many places will just give you a refund for a game key. I swear, the people of Japan are smoking something.
     
  9. brynthomas80

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    They introduced the law to make it illegal to make money from editing saves or modifing game console hardware. The rules of the law are it's illegal to distribute save editors. Illegal to sell modified game hardware and illegal to charge a saving editing service. The law doesn't stop you editing your own saves or modifing your own console. You can still post how to edit a save but can't make save editor to send to others but can provide instructions for them to make their own editor or tell how to decrypt and encypt saves.
     
  10. LuxerWap

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    I want them to enforce this rule. Nice job, Japan! You're starting to settle this out for the better! :D
     
  11. deinonychus71

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    Nope, it's not April 1st. Damn.
     
  12. AlphaBravo

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    Wouldnt surprise me if its true as the japanese are often quite complicit towards authority and would see it as dishonorable to question these kind of laws. It could happen in the west to but no chance that you would face these kind of repercussions.
     
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  13. Redhorse

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    don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet or not, but I wonder if any of this is in response to things like Frogminer or games that save edits might apply to etc... now I realize they're (frog miner)not the same but, maybe they're 'closing a door before the cow leaves' regarding the switch
     
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  14. zoogie

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    Yah, its all Frogminer's fault. :P
     
  15. the_randomizer

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    Lol good luck enforcing it, that'll be the day
     
  16. zacchi4k

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    Now this is a stupid law
    I can list so many legitimate reasons one would want to manually edit a save file
     
  17. Superman321

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    I think that this is stupid. I can understand they dont want that you cheat online but why?
     
  18. leafeon34

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    It's still harsh but at least the end user who wants to optimise their Pokemon without hours of breeding and EV training can legally do so.

    I think that in the country where Nintendo and Sony work fucking miracles for the economy they have gained a bit too much political power.
     
  19. chrisrlink

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    ugh the day game companies own a freaking government will be the day everything goes to hell
     
  20. Captain_N

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    Im gonna head to japan and edit some empire earth singleplayer saves and say "and what" I changed 1 bit on a 20 year old game that yall never even heard of...... They really cant police this you know. Really they should have passed "editing your saves on 3ds and nintendo switch gives us the right to brick your console." that would have made more sense...
     
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