iXtreme firmware 1.0 - Xbox Samsung

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May 31, 2007
  1. iamwhoiam
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    New "unbannable" firmware for xbox samsung drives is out...

    (v1.0) Defeats all current and some future Xbox Live detection attempts
    (v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
    (v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
    (v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals
    (v1.0) Boots all Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360

    Use on Xbox Live at own risk!!

    More info here:
    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=605805

    Tutorial for flashing your drive here:
    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=601501

    How who's going to take the plunge and be the gbatemp guinea pig? Not I!
     
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    Interesting, I have no 360 or live but I would be willing to try it out.
     
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    Is this "work-around" confirmed or have they just speculated on what causes bannings?

    I'm buying a new 360 soon...
     
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    Have a peek at this m8: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=604553

    The firmware was finished last week and has been testing for about 5 days, with C4Eva and team monitoring commands sent to and from the DVD drive. But to be honest, I don't think this 5 day testing period is good enough
     
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    Were you banned? [​IMG]
     
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    No. Costello's going back to France and taking the 360 with him so I need to get my own [​IMG]
     
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    Lol, I love how everyone says "Microsoft has been outsmarted! lolololol!". Doesn't everyone realise that Microsoft has just left a select few unbanned to see what they'll do next?

    MS gathered various XBOX IDs for ages, instead of just banning them individually. This'll fail soon, too.
     
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    not necessarily. what makes you so sure that this firmware wont work?

    I have been following the 360 scene for a while and from what I know of this new firmware, its about as close to emulating original games with backups as possible.

    On the technical side of things, there is just about nothing they can do now to tell if you're running a backup. Every base has been covered from the scarce info I know of this new firmware. That mentions another fact: he hasnt said exactly what checks he has put in place, unlike the previous firmwares where he let the cat out of the bag and gave MS a place to start when trying to look for backups.

    As it is, he has been monitoring every command sent to and from the xboxes and is sure he has circumvented any checks microsoft has when you connect to live. Ive seen the logs, he can see exactly where microsoft is requesting sectors or such from the DVD drive, and has circumvented these to make backups look original. Apparently he covered a lot of bases for the future too, even though Microsoft wasn't using them to detect right now.

    It may be too soon to jump around scream ing that MS has been outsmarted, but I'll tell ya one thing: the only possibility is that microsoft engineers must be pretty dang good if they have actually found a new way to detect backups or modified firmware that C4eva didnt already cover. Saying that they have without any info is tantamount to undue paranoia. And we know that microsoft engineers arent very smart with what happened with the first xbox. If you want to know exactly why I say this, then check this link out:

    http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes...Security_System

    Engineers who make that many mistakes and screw up as much as they did are almost certainly not smart enough to know of a base that c4eva hasnt accounted for.
     
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    Am I the only one that finds that pretty funny [​IMG]
     
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    I agree with you. I don't think that it's unbannable, plus it is not certain what microsoft is checking for. This new firmware just eliminates some of the probable checks that microsoft is doing. There will always be a probability that you will get banned, you take the risks when you hack the firmware.
     
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    Ok. I'll be the guinea pig...
    I flashed to iXtreme yesterday and haven't been banned. I definitely think MS is detecting the "non-stealth" backups and ban xboxes accordingly. Mine are all "stealth" and thus was never banned using Xtreme 5.2.
    Of course MS might have something up to its sleeve but I highly doubt it.
     
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    I guess the final test would be to put a currently unbanned, old firmware machine onto Live, and see how long it takes to get banned. Compare this with those putting machines with this firmware onto Live.
     
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    Screw playing cat and mouse games with microsoft...i cant see this lasting, This only good for people like me who havent flashed thier 360 before.
     
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    These flaws apply to the original xbox, and you should know, being down with tha skene that Microsoft didn't implement a big part of their security system in the 360. The 360 uses a hypervisor environment like the PS3 does, and I believe it's based on Xen. The flaws in the original Xbox were mostly hardware hang overs like the A20 gate still being present, the crappy algorithm used for the secret rom mumbo was a classic copy 'n paste cock up . Microsoft have done something right this time.. the hypervisor makes it pretty hard to exploit anything.
     

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